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re: Charlie Kirk: You Cannot Be a Christian and Vote Democrat

Posted on 8/7/24 at 12:45 pm to
Posted by riccoar
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Posted on 8/7/24 at 12:45 pm to
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What is the Christian argument against illegal immigration?


Breaking Laws when a LEGAL avenue exists for said individuals to dwell here.
Thus, those who aid and abet Criminals would also be doing wrong.


How is that even hard to understand?

There are many ways to support people who would like to come here, or desire benefits that would help them, without openly disregarding LAWS jst because we don't like or agree with them.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/7/24 at 12:45 pm to
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We all have world views/belief systems. Yours influence the sort of government you want, and so do mine. Everybody has "religion".

But this is about an actual religion, with a fully-contained belief system
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 8/7/24 at 12:46 pm to
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Do you believe that Christianity has been communicated to humans


I believe that God communicated to us. Christianity is humanity’s attempt to match the requirements of God. Its status as “self-contained” does not inform us on its validity to integrate with a person’s political views.
Posted by Flats
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Posted on 8/7/24 at 12:47 pm to
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But this is about an actual religion, with a fully-contained belief system


So?

As I said, everybody has a religion. You have a set of beliefs you operate by, just like other atheists, Jainists, Christians, Muslims, whoever.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 8/7/24 at 12:48 pm to
Because God is Love and that's all.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/7/24 at 12:49 pm to
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Breaking Laws when a LEGAL avenue exists for said individuals to dwell here.
Thus, those who aid and abet Criminals would also be doing wrong.


How is that even hard to understand?
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Because you're now arguing man-made law effectively supersedes the Bible in determining what is Christian, and saying people who helped slaves or fight Jim Crow laws were engaging in anti-Christian behaviors.

shite, January 6 may be the biggest Devil-worshiping event in history
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 8/7/24 at 12:49 pm to
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You don't think Matthew was despised by people?


He wasn’t despised by people for saying “Grab them by the pussy.” At least not in my text.
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 8/7/24 at 12:49 pm to
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Give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and to God what belongs to God


-Jesus

FYI, he was talking about paying your taxes, as well as tithing. Nothing to do with politics or voting.
Posted by AlwysATgr
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Posted on 8/7/24 at 12:49 pm to
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SlowFlowPro


Are you suggesting that Jesus of Nazareth is on-board with the Democrats' agenda? Are you willing to affix His Name to that?
This post was edited on 8/7/24 at 12:51 pm
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 8/7/24 at 12:51 pm to
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Because you're now arguing man-made law effectively supersedes the Bible in determining what is Christian,


No. You’re reading the most simplistic version of his argument as his argument. This is called a straw man.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 8/7/24 at 12:51 pm to
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quote:
. I do not understand how a professing Christian can vote Democrat



quote:
Give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and to God what belongs to God



-Jesus
This is dumb. Republicans vote taxes for the people as well.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/7/24 at 12:52 pm to
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. Its status as “self-contained” does not inform us on its validity to integrate with a person’s political views.


So you think that an individual's choice to ignore parts of God's communication to us is a valid system for that individual to determine if a political view furthers God's communication to us?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/7/24 at 12:52 pm to
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Are you suggesting that Jesus of Nazareth is on-board with the Democrats' agenda?

I don't think he's on board with their agenda or Trump's.

Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 8/7/24 at 12:53 pm to
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So you think that an individual's choice to ignore parts of God's communication to us is a valid system for that individual to determine if a political view furthers God's communication to us?


I think this post accurately sums up your complete and utter lack of understanding religion.
Posted by BugAC
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/7/24 at 12:53 pm to
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FYI, he was talking about paying your taxes, as well as tithing. Nothing to do with politics or voting.


Liberals always take that passage as a justification for taxes.

They always forget the rest of the passage.

quote:

Jesus said to them, “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.” And they marveled at him.


Yet not a one of those same liberals commit themselves to God.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 8/7/24 at 12:53 pm to
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I don't think he's on board with their agenda or Trump's.


This is the first correct post for you in this thread.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 8/7/24 at 12:55 pm to
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I don't think he's on board with their agenda or Trump's.


Politics are of no concern to God. However, political actions such as promoting transgenderism/abortion/child abuse, definitely is in the realm of God and a much bigger issue than illegal immigration, in terms of faith and the Spirit.
This post was edited on 8/7/24 at 12:55 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/7/24 at 12:55 pm to
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You’re reading the most simplistic version of his argument as his argument.

I asked for the Christian argument.

He responded with man-made law.

I didn't ask for the Republican argument. I asked for the Christian argument. That means part of the communication from God you spoke of, not a law passed by Congress.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 8/7/24 at 12:55 pm to
I think you missed again by a simple twist of fate.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
5123 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 12:55 pm to
Bruh, you just quoted render under to Caesar.


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