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re: Charges against parents of Michigan school shooter
Posted on 12/3/21 at 5:53 pm to TOSOV
Posted on 12/3/21 at 5:53 pm to TOSOV
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Not sure where you are from, but seeing a loaded shotgun/rifle leaning against the doorframe of a master bedroom or next to the bed wasn't surprising. Teach your kids it's not a toy, and take them out to the range to see how it works. Pretty simple.
It’s amazing to me that people actually think they would have charged the parents if it was a “normal”case of the kid taking dads gun from the nightstand or whatever.
Considering generally that parents of school shooters are not charged, I have no idea where that thought process is coming from.
Every publicly available piece of information indicates that there were warning signs, and that the parents at best were apparently oblivious to the psychopath they raised.
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Posted on 12/3/21 at 5:55 pm to Indefatigable
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There is very clearly something giving the DA/Sheriff’s office an indication that the parts were incredibly negligent on this, at best. They wouldn’t have charged the parents otherwise.
The parents bought him the gun, heard about his "bloody drawings", refused to take him home, and they didn't search his backpack or him, they turned a blind eye.
He is just a good boy, he woodn du nuffin....this is way worse than the normal dindu.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 6:30 pm to Indefatigable
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I understand that you are desperately wishing
I understand that when people resort to telling the other person what's in their head, they have nothing intelligent left to say.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 7:04 pm to Music_City_Tiger
False flag gonna false flag.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 7:10 pm to stout
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What you are left with is them ignoring the drawings and a school counselors suggestion. Does that come across as involuntary manslaughter to you?
But there's not even any evidence that they ignored the school at all. The school gave them 48 hours to get the child counseling, and the shooting happened before that day was over. There was no time to do any of that.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 7:19 pm to Music_City_Tiger
I’m all for it, but let’s play this straight and unbiased. The parents of every teen committing a gun crime are to be jailed.
The following housing projects will be vacant soon: Desire, Iberville, St Bernard, Fischer, etc.
The following housing projects will be vacant soon: Desire, Iberville, St Bernard, Fischer, etc.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 7:37 pm to Thundercles
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The gun was purchased days before the shooting. It's very possible prosecution believes the dad bought the gun specifically for his son-- maybe not for school shooting though. I know nothing.
Is this a Michigan law issue, most of the guys I know were given a firearm by their dad as a kid.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 7:57 pm to FlySaint
quote:That's absurd. In this case, we actually have a timeline where the parents were summoned to school, told about the gun, and the didn't even look in his booksack before sending him back to school.
The parents of every teen committing a gun crime are to be jailed.
The communities you are talking about often have NO parents to begin with.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 7:57 pm to Seppuku
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Sometimes I wonder if any of you actually read the news instead of being pure sheep. But, it's more important "my opinion is more important than the facts. I can't be wrong no matter what" That's the vast majority of people here.
Get the facts from the news, like what was said about Kyle Rittenhouse?
This has to be sarcasm!
Posted on 12/3/21 at 9:27 pm to EA6B
I said "news" not fake news. There are multiple outlets including local.
second, Rittenhouse situation was 100% political during a time of riots where fake news tried like hell to paint him as a racist. Good thing is, there was video for everybody to see exactly what happened.
You are doing nothing but being a political hack yourself. The parents were obviously nothing but "he's a good boy, he wuudn do nuffin, which is way worse than a dindu.
Parents should be charged with something here because they KNEW he was mental but refused to take him home and the mom was joking with him after the killings.
second, Rittenhouse situation was 100% political during a time of riots where fake news tried like hell to paint him as a racist. Good thing is, there was video for everybody to see exactly what happened.
You are doing nothing but being a political hack yourself. The parents were obviously nothing but "he's a good boy, he wuudn do nuffin, which is way worse than a dindu.
Parents should be charged with something here because they KNEW he was mental but refused to take him home and the mom was joking with him after the killings.
This post was edited on 12/3/21 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 12/3/21 at 9:31 pm to Seppuku
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second, Rittenhouse situation was 100% political
This is a quote from the DA about what inspired her to run.
“Candidly, the thing that changed for me was when Donald Trump was elected,” she said. “We’re in a moment where if we don’t start taking risks, we’re going to keep electing people like Donald Trump. You have to have people willing to put something on the line.”
Do you think her leftist political views play no part in who she chooses to prosecute? That's the entire reason she ran. What do you figure her views are on the 2nd Amendment?
I don't know what the parents knew and when. As I said earlier, they may have helped the kid with his kill list for all I know. But the idea that this case is divorced from politics, or that DAs don't prosecute for political reasons, is just totally fricking naive.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 9:54 pm to Flats
You are doing exactly what the leftist hacks used on Trump, which was to say every move he made is wrong, racist, idiot regardless if he was right.
You are allowing your hatred of a clear leftist to outweigh the facts that the parents were supremely negligent and deserves some punishment in this case.
You are much like a leftist....zero objectivity like many on this board that leans right.
You are allowing your hatred of a clear leftist to outweigh the facts that the parents were supremely negligent and deserves some punishment in this case.
You are much like a leftist....zero objectivity like many on this board that leans right.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 10:07 pm to Seppuku
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You are allowing your hatred of a clear leftist to outweigh the facts that the parents were supremely negligent and deserves some punishment in this case.
Read my post again, mensa. I said they might be very guilty of even worse than negligence, but their guilt or innocence isn’t the point I was addressing. You obviously can’t process the point I was addressing so you went on a dumbass word salad rant.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 10:15 pm to Seppuku
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Parents BOUGHT the kid the gun as a Christmas gift
I've not seen any evidence that the gun was purchased for the son. The kid was with the dad when he bought it, and made a Facebook post about the gun, but the gun was kept in the dad's sock drawer or something like that. Regardless, the gun was purchased before the parents were
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made aware of his drawings of shooting people
As far as we know, the school told the parents about the kid's drawings THE DAY OF the shooting, and then the school allowed the kid to stay at school that day. Apparently they were worried enough to call the parents, but not to search the kid's bag. Why on earth would the parents have thought their kid had a gun on him when the school let him stay there?
Charges never should have been brought against them, and if charges hadn't been maliciously filed against the parents then there never would have been the opportunity for them to
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flee when charged
You seem to be having difficulty following the timeline here. That, or you're assuming facts that have not yet been released to the public.
This post was edited on 12/3/21 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 12/3/21 at 10:19 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:Because they knew they gifted him the 9mm 4 days earlier. I bet they didn't tell the school that. Probably said they keep all of their guns locked up.
Why on earth would the parents have thought their kid had a gun on him when the school let him stay there?
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I've not seen any evidence that the gun was purchased for the son.
Now you have. STFU
This post was edited on 12/3/21 at 10:22 pm
Posted on 12/3/21 at 10:23 pm to mmcgrath
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Because they knew they gifted him the 9mm 4 days earlier.
This makes no sense. If the school thought he was a threat to shoot people, the school should have searched his bag. There are many different ways to get a gun that don't involve being given one by your parents.
Also, it does not appear he was given a gun at all.
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I bet they didn't tell the school that. Probably said they keep all of their guns locked up.
I have no idea how you could possibly think either of these comments are relevant in the least.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 10:23 pm to mmcgrath
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Now you have. STFU
Nope, still haven't.
ETA: I know it's hard for leftists to understand, but social media isn't real life.
ETA2: Also, just to be clear: It wasn't a crime in that state for their son to own that gun or for them to buy it for him. Even if they actually did buy it for him, that means nothing.
This post was edited on 12/3/21 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 12/3/21 at 10:26 pm to imjustafatkid
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I've not seen any evidence that the gun was purchased for the son
Mom posted a photo of her kid on social media, that said something like, "here is our christmas gift to him." obvious paraphase, but the facts remain.
second, the school did ask them to take him home and get him mental help within 48hrs. The parents refused to take him home. The parents COULD have searched the backpack, but didn't and the school is not allowed to search without the parents permission.
The mom sent him some dumbass text saying something about not being mad at him, he just learns to not get caught.
Those are facts as stated by a few outlets including local.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 10:29 pm to Flats
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Read my post again, mensa. I said they might be very guilty of even worse than negligence, but their guilt or innocence isn’t the point I was addressing. You obviously can’t process the point I was addressing so you went on a dumbass word salad rant.
I did. Quit being a small minded right hack like a leftist hack. Go hold hands w/ Olbermann you will feel better.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 10:31 pm to Seppuku
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second, the school did ask them to take him home and get him mental help within 48hrs.
That's not how this works. The school can request you take your student home, but they have to suspend the student if they want to FORCE you to take your student home.
The reality is that we have compulsory school laws in this country, and that state is no exception. I would not have taken my children home under the same circumstances because we're not taking an absence for that.
They were still required to seek mental help within 48 hours. That was separate from the request to take him home. The shooting happened that exact same day, so no one could possibly say they didn't comply with that order. The school would have likely suspended him if they didn't set up an appointment before that 48 hours ended.
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The parents COULD have searched the backpack, but didn't and the school is not allowed to search without the parents permission.
This is where you are absolutely wrong. Schools may absolutely search a child's backpack without parental permission. Where are you seeing that the school asked the parents to search his backpack? If the school didn't ask, why would the parents just assume he had a gun on him? If the school didn't ask, how would they have even known this is something the school wanted them to do?
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The mom sent him some dumbass text saying something about not being mad at him, he just learns to not get caught.
This was a separate incident where he got in trouble for searching the web on his phone during class. The news is making a bigger deal out of it because he was searching for ammo, which really isn't a big deal at all. I'd have the same reaction in the same situation with my kid and would laugh at the school if they acted like searching for ammo online was somehow indicative of anything.
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Those are facts as stated by a few outlets including local.
No, those are distorted facts that you've placed out of order to advance a narrative.
This post was edited on 12/3/21 at 10:54 pm
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