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re: Charges against parents of Michigan school shooter

Posted on 12/3/21 at 2:23 pm to
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37341 posts
Posted on 12/3/21 at 2:23 pm to
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Wow.

Could turn into more drama.
Yup. Keep in mind that when the dialed into their son's arraignment yesterday, they did so from the inside of a car. Have probably been on the run for 24 hours.

Posted by autauga
Member since Sep 2015
3684 posts
Posted on 12/3/21 at 2:23 pm to
Be On the Lookout alert issued for James and Jennifer Crumbley, parents of accused Oxford High School shooter

A Be On the Lookout (BOLO) alert has been issued for James and Jennifer Crumbley, the parents of Ethan Crumbley, the accused Oxford High School shooter.

FOX 2's Jessica Dupnack confirmed through two police departments that a statewide BOLO was issued for the Crumbleys Friday afternoon, just hours after they were charged with involuntary manslaughter in connection to the Oxford High School shootings.

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Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28162 posts
Posted on 12/3/21 at 2:24 pm to
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Its been reported the dad bought the kid the gun.


It’s been reported that Kyle a Rittenhouse is a white supremacist who took a gun across state lines to shoot black people too. Facts and reporting are typically shite on these stories.
Posted by Stuttgart Tiger
Branson, MO
Member since Jan 2006
15522 posts
Posted on 12/3/21 at 2:35 pm to
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To not be charged with terrorism, he should have used an suv!


Notorious vehicles in history...





This post was edited on 12/3/21 at 2:39 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65842 posts
Posted on 12/3/21 at 2:37 pm to
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Be On the Lookout alert issued for James and Jennifer Crumbley, parents of accused Oxford High School shooter


I understand. They never should have been charged. Given the political nature of prosecutions these days, I can see why they might feel like their only recourse is to flee.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65842 posts
Posted on 12/3/21 at 2:37 pm to
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Some parents apparently do need to be told how to store their guns.


The only way to store your guns is a way in which they are easily accessible.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65842 posts
Posted on 12/3/21 at 2:40 pm to
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Are you kidding me? If I'm called to school for anything. I want to see that kid NOW! Not tomorrow not next week ...NOW!


They did see him...
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11364 posts
Posted on 12/3/21 at 2:49 pm to
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the right to bear arms comes with great responsibility. That responsibility includes securing firearms in a way that prevents them from falling into the unsupervised hands of children, mentally ill, etc. While I don't believe the shooter's parents should be vicariously liable for the murders, they probably should be charged with some form of negligent handling/storage of a firearm.


Should the foster mom of the girl that was shot by police while she was trying to stab another girl be arrested for negligent storage of the kitchen knife? What if a kid kills someone with his dad's hammer?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65842 posts
Posted on 12/3/21 at 2:51 pm to
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Should the foster mom of the girl that was shot by police while she was trying to stab another girl be arrested for negligent storage of the kitchen knife? What if a kid kills someone with his dad's hammer?



Some of these folks have an alarming misunderstanding of what "shall not be infringed" means.
Posted by GCTigahs
Member since Oct 2014
2522 posts
Posted on 12/3/21 at 2:54 pm to
I've always said if a parent wants the system to not charge their child as an adult, then the parent should serve time. If they don't want to serve, then the kid is charged as an adult.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85098 posts
Posted on 12/3/21 at 2:54 pm to
Damn, the things that are coming out are scary…. These parents deserve the same punishment as him.

Bought the gun for him? Were at school with him day of and before shooting? Mom text him “don’t do it”?
This post was edited on 12/3/21 at 2:58 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
75376 posts
Posted on 12/3/21 at 2:56 pm to
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If they’re charging the child as an adult I don’t see how you also give the parent responsibility here.











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This post was edited on 12/3/21 at 2:57 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37328 posts
Posted on 12/3/21 at 3:10 pm to
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If they’re charging the child as an adult I don’t see how you also give the parent responsibility here.


Involuntary manslaughter is an overcharge, but your post doesn't make any sense. A kid being tried as an adult does not categorically exclude their parents (or another person) also having culpability for the crime.

More than one person can be charged with, and found guilty of the same crime. Accessory-type crimes, etc. etc. It just happened in the Arbery case last week.




This post was edited on 12/3/21 at 3:13 pm
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
9025 posts
Posted on 12/3/21 at 3:10 pm to
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Because sadly, nobody in this country cares when black people kill each other.


More like it would go against the democratic narrative for gun control
.
Ie. 6% of the population causeing 60% of the gun violence.. take out suicide and those numbers go up higher.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37328 posts
Posted on 12/3/21 at 3:12 pm to
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Some of these folks have an alarming misunderstanding of what "shall not be infringed" means.



There are no second amendment implications in this case whatsoever.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65842 posts
Posted on 12/3/21 at 3:14 pm to
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There are no second amendment implications in this case whatsoever.


100% there are. These parents are being charged for having a gun.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37328 posts
Posted on 12/3/21 at 3:15 pm to
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These parents are being charged for having a gun.

No, they aren't.

They are being charged because they did absolutely nothing to prevent their budding psychopath son (and/or downright enabling him) from accessing the weapon and bringing it to school. The prosecutor claims to have evidence that they gave the weapon to the little psycho, and that the parents were aware of his issues. Hell, his mom texted him "don't do it".

If this was the anti-Second Amendment conspiracy that you want it to be, why aren't the parents of every school shooter charged?
This post was edited on 12/3/21 at 3:19 pm
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85098 posts
Posted on 12/3/21 at 3:17 pm to
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100% there are. These parents are being charged for having a gun.


Are they? Like I posted above, report I heard earlier said the dad bought the gun for the kid knowing his mental issues, knew about the school problems, were at the school, didn’t alert anyone that he had a gun, and the mom text the kid “don’t do it”
Posted by VBFlorida
Florida
Member since Nov 2020
1338 posts
Posted on 12/3/21 at 3:29 pm to
How are the parents the Arlington, Tx shooter doing?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28162 posts
Posted on 12/3/21 at 3:45 pm to
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The prosecutor claims to have evidence



Did you learn nothing from the Rittenhouse trial?

Nobody on this forum knows jack right now. Maybe the parents knew he was a psycho, maybe they didn't. Maybe they bought the gun for him, maybe (much more likely) dad bought it for himself and kid went and got it from dad's sock drawer. Maybe they helped him with his murder list or maybe they were completely clueless about little Johnny. Maybe the school was negligent, maybe they weren't.

All I firmly believe about this case at this point is that all the people saying "if he got his parents' gun then they're guilty of murder as well" are tards.
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