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re: Celina Midelfart might be what Trump is embarrassed about in relation to Epstein
Posted on 2/13/26 at 8:10 am to SallysHuman
Posted on 2/13/26 at 8:10 am to SallysHuman
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Victims, victims everywhere, but why aren't they talking? They dress up in matching shirts, raise their hands, get their pictures taken with all the hottest politicians... but why aren't they talking?
Again, you seem to not be keeping up with the actual files.
Most of these "victims" we know publicly were later groomed to become victimizers and scouts. They are just as guilty in some regard. They aren't going to name names without going down themselves. I think that's the entire point of letting their names out.
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Posted on 2/13/26 at 8:11 am to theunknownknight
Unless I missed something (possible), your post shows me 2 things:
1. Trump dated a 22 year old prior to Melania. Who among us, if single and with the means to do so, would not continue to frick 20 somethings until the day we die?
2. Like everyone else, Epstein was out to get Trump.
1. Trump dated a 22 year old prior to Melania. Who among us, if single and with the means to do so, would not continue to frick 20 somethings until the day we die?
2. Like everyone else, Epstein was out to get Trump.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 8:11 am to theunknownknight
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Clearly, you aren't reading these files directly
You read about fart girl and a Hawaiian Tropics model.
Both of which were news a long time ago... not news, but blurbs in magazines.
Come on, now.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 8:12 am to SallysHuman
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Simple. THAT is not what GM was convicted of.
YOU just said that's what she was convicted of - sexually trafficking to Epstein
who...wait for it...
distributed the girls
Posted on 2/13/26 at 8:12 am to theunknownknight
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Facilitating to a distributor still entails distribution and distribution entails several other clients
It only requires one client, not several. Maxwell trafficked girls and both she and Epstein engaged in sexual abuse of those girls (Epstein more so but Maxwell did partake occassionaly, per the indictment/trial)
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These people are starting to be NAMED.
They are, in fact, not.
People who had OTHER associated with Epstein are being named, which includes Trump. Associating those names with any illegal sexual behavior is scant at best, including Trump.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 8:13 am to theunknownknight
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Most of these "victims" we know publicly were later groomed to become victimizers and scouts. They are just as guilty in some regard. They aren't going to name names without going down themselves.
Exactly.
They can either swallow their guilt and take the whole cabal down with them...
...or, do photo ops with sad but serious faces in matching shirts and say nothing.
Guess what they're choosing?
Posted on 2/13/26 at 8:13 am to SallysHuman
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Both of which were news a long time ago... not news, but blurbs in magazines.
And? So what?
A lot of the information in these files was known for at least a decade so that begs the question - why isn't the swamp being drained by Trump?
That is my major gripe. The dude has been ALL TALK about that.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 8:14 am to SallysHuman
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Exactly.
They can either swallow their guilt and take the whole cabal down with them...
...or, do photo ops with sad but serious faces in matching shirts and say nothing.
Guess what they're choosing?
I'm not disagreeing with this
The question you have to ask is "why were these particular victims names released?" when, if they were scouts as you admit, others are not?
Because these can be controlled
Posted on 2/13/26 at 8:15 am to theunknownknight
more speculative nonsense
Maybe all this bullshite can be accumulated in one thread so the rest of the board would be cleaner but that isn't likely.
Maybe all this bullshite can be accumulated in one thread so the rest of the board would be cleaner but that isn't likely.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 8:16 am to theunknownknight
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who...wait for it... distributed the girls
She was not convicted based on JE distributing girls.
You are taking facts and adding to them conspiracies. Do I believe he distributed flesh? Yes. But that is not what GM was convicted of.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 8:16 am to theunknownknight
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distributed the girls
No allegations of that were in the indictment or trial.
This is all publicly available information
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Prosecutors had argued that Maxwell and Epstein created a system of sexual abuse in which they lured underage girls into sexual relationships with Epstein using the ruse of a massage and cash payments. Her defense, though, argued she is being scapegoated for Epstein’s actions and has attacked the memories and motivations of the women who say they were abused.
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Testimony from the victims began on November 30 with “Jane,” who said that Maxwell sometimes joined in on the sexualized massages. “Kate” testified December 6 that Maxwell set up those sexual meetings. Carolyn testified the next day that Maxwell once touched her breasts, hips and butt and told her she “had a great body for Epstein and his friends.” She was 14 at the time, she said.
Finally, Farmer testified that she was 16 years old when Maxwell massaged her naked chest at Epstein’s New Mexico ranch in 1996.
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Jane described in graphic detail incidents of sexual abuse with Epstein that Maxwell would at times join in on, both in Palm Beach, Florida, and Manhattan when she was 14, 15 and 16 years old.
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A couple of weeks later, Maxwell called Kate to ask whether she would do her “a favor” and come give Epstein a massage, even though she had no massage therapy experience. Maxwell led Kate upstairs in her townhome to a bedroom where Epstein stood in a robe, gave Kate massage oil, and closed the door behind her. Epstein disrobed and initiated a sex act with her, she said.
Maxwell called her back a second for another meeting with Epstein. “She said, ‘I’m so glad you’re here. You did such a good job last time (that) he wanted you to come back,’” Kate said.
This time, Epstein was standing naked when Maxwell brought Kate to the same room and closed the door behind her. “Have a good time,” Maxwell said as she left the room, according to the testimony.
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Carolyn, who testified using only her first name, said she was 14 years old when she began to go to Epstein’s home in Palm Beach, two or three times per week in the early 2000s.
On one visit, Carolyn was setting up a massage room for him when Maxwell came into the room. Maxwell touched Carolyn’s breasts, hips and buttocks, and commented that she “had a great body for Epstein and his friends,” according to her testimony.
Carolyn said she went to Epstein’s over a hundred times in all. Each time she visited, $300 in cash was left for her on the bathroom sink, she said.
“Something sexual happened every single time,” Carolyn said.
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Annie Farmer, who testified under her full name, has spoken out publicly about Epstein and Maxwell for years. She spoke in open court during both Epstein’s 2019 bail hearing and Maxwell’s bail hearing a year later.
She testified for three hours, the fourth and final accuser to do so. Her older sister worked for Epstein, and Farmer met him during the 1995 holiday season. Epstein paid for her commercial flight to New York and at a movie held hands with her and caressed her foot, she said in court.
DOJ article on the indictment
What there were no accusations of, and what the victims could not provide proof of: anyone other than Maxwell or Epstein being involved.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 8:17 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:quote:
then what is preventing these victims from coming out publicly and giving specific details?
You don't know this. Each victim that has not come out publicly (and there have already been many that have, there is as documentary on Netflix about the Epstein "girls") have different reasons for not doing so. However, apparently the one's that showed up to Bondi's hearing are now willing to talk.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 8:17 am to theunknownknight
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why isn't the swamp being drained by Trump?
Again.
He is unfortunately not a dictator and is bound by the same restraints that bind every president.
What would you specifically have him do to Sarah Ferguson?
Posted on 2/13/26 at 8:17 am to SallysHuman
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She was not convicted based on JE distributing girls.
THAT
IS
MY
POINT
Think this through.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 8:18 am to GumboPot
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However, apparently the one's that showed up to Bondi's hearing are now willing to talk.
And nothing prevents them from giving details publicly outside of the DOJ process.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 8:19 am to theunknownknight
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The question you have to ask is "why were these particular victims names released?" when, if they were scouts as you admit, others are not? Because these can be controlled
I don't even know these women's (and that dude with his hand raised) names are. Or what their specific claims are.
THAT would be a heck of a thread.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 8:20 am to theunknownknight
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THAT IS MY POINT Think this through.
Your point has become quite confusing.
You are all over the place.
Stop telling me to read your mind and just spell it out, already.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 8:21 am to Penrod
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English is their second language. Do you laugh every time someone mentions the Chevy Nova?
Lighten up Francis. Its a message board.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 8:22 am to SlowFlowPro
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And nothing prevents them from giving details publicly outside of the DOJ process.
Maybe you will get your wish.
It would not surprise me that some these "victims" are coordinating with Democrat politicians for political timing.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 8:23 am to theunknownknight
Ah, the emails right around his election timelines. All debunked.
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