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re: CDC Director: "A facemask is more guaranteed to protect me than a COVID vaccine"

Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:09 pm to
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64683 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

I typed up several responses to this, and finally gave up. Anyone by now who is too stupid not to wear a mask, given the absolute most minor of inconveniences it takes to put one on vs. the potential benefit it provides to you, me, my neighbor and grandmother, cannot be convinced otherwise. I wonder if most of us were always this dumb and the internet just magnifies it, or if we're willfully becoming more stupid by the day.






That is not the point of this thread.
This post was edited on 9/16/20 at 1:09 pm
Posted by SOKAL
Member since May 2018
4124 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:12 pm to
Yeah, it seems about half the people wearing masks are using them as chin warmers.

Hell, the other day I saw a woman start to walk into a liquor store when she realized she didnt have a mask.

I swear she turned to a group if people sitting at a table outside a bar and asked, "can I borrow someone's mask?
Posted by LSU2019
Encino
Member since Sep 2020
166 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

Anyone still questioning that the CDC is partisan hacks against Trump?
Redfield was appointed by Trump.
Posted by AUMIS01
Atlanta
Member since May 2020
1212 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:25 pm to
Have an upvote. Just don't be surprised when the villagers break down your door with a wood hand battering ram. :)
Posted by AUMIS01
Atlanta
Member since May 2020
1212 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

I typed up several responses to this, and finally gave up. Anyone by now who is too stupid not to wear a mask, given the absolute most minor of inconveniences it takes to put one on vs. the potential benefit it provides to you, me, my neighbor and grandmother, cannot be convinced otherwise. I wonder if most of us were always this dumb and the internet just magnifies it, or if we're willfully becoming more stupid by the day.



Woosh...
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
6014 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:30 pm to
Wow!

If this were actually true, hospital staffs would wear masks throughout flu season instead of getting vaccinated. I can't even go into patient areas without my flu vaccine tag, but never wore a mask until April of this year.

Who knew that nearly two decades of influenza vaccine and hospital transmission research were all wrong?
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9904 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

I wonder if most of us were always this dumb and the internet just magnifies it, or if we're willfully becoming more stupid by the day.


It's not that people are dumb, as we're more educated as a population than we've been at times when we followed public health authorities more easily. There's more distrust of authorities and more counter-authorities for people to attach to. The internet is definitely a factor.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111554 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:33 pm to
1) define close contact
2) count the number of people you are in close contact with every day in public places
3) re-evaluate your nonsense post
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
6014 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:35 pm to
Perhaps, but multiple vaccines are in phase III and none will get an indication unless it meets FDA standards of safety and efficacy. These will be no different than vaccines for influenza.

So at best, it was a very poorly articulated comment.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9904 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:39 pm to
He actually was talking about masks vs. a proven vaccine and assuming that even proven vaccines aren't going to elicit a sufficient immune response for acquired immunity in everyone vaccinated, whereas masks don't have that differential effect.
Posted by TiderTom
Pleasant Grove
Member since Apr 2011
385 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:44 pm to
frick your mask.
frick the CDC
frick you.
frick off and curl up in your basement and stop leaking your menstrual flow on the rest of the world.
Posted by Jimmy2shoes
The South
Member since Mar 2014
11004 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:45 pm to
Where was this MF and his facemask guarantee in March?
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
6014 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 1:50 pm to
Masks have long been considered ineffective for reducing community transmission of influenza and were not a recommendation of the CDC or NIAID as recently as 2017.

True, C19 is not influenza, but there are no large community studies for C19.
This post was edited on 9/16/20 at 1:56 pm
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
34128 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 6:01 pm to
quote:

Redfield was appointed by Trump.

Redfield is an idiot. Birx said earlier this year, during a Task Force briefing, that the CDC couldn't be relied on for anything.
Posted by RICHIE APRILE
Essex County, NJ
Member since Aug 2020
791 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 6:02 pm to
I've been saying all along... mask mandates are here to stay. They aren't going anywhere.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 6:03 pm to
quote:

cannot be convinced otherwise


Sure I can be convinced. The mask nazis need to do a better job of convincing. I see absolutely no reason for me to wear a mask. I'd do the world more good by not driving anywhere.
Posted by ShaneTheMaster
Tampa, FL
Member since Nov 2009
2930 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 6:17 pm to
This is dumb, masks don’t protect the person wearing the mask.
Posted by LSU2019
Encino
Member since Sep 2020
166 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 6:37 pm to
quote:

Redfield is an idiot. Birx said earlier this year, during a Task Force briefing, that the CDC couldn't be relied on for anything.
well then I guess Trump shouldnt have appointed him. Then you wouldnt have to cite the Obama appointee as the expert.

If all the "party of science lol" people have a problem with him, explain why your party did this.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47930 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 6:38 pm to
Imagine trusting such obvious frauds and political operatives.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 9/16/20 at 6:43 pm to
quote:

I typed up several responses to this, and finally gave up. Anyone by now who is too stupid not to wear a mask, given the absolute most minor of inconveniences it takes to put one on vs. the potential benefit it provides to you, me, my neighbor and grandmother, cannot be convinced otherwise. I wonder if most of us were always this dumb and the internet just magnifies it, or if we're willfully becoming more stupid by the day.



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There has been disagreement among "experts" about their effectiveness and the dissenting views have been silenced like they always are.
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