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re: Catholic church near Boston depicts nativity with Jesus, Mary and Joseph taken by ICE
Posted on 12/4/25 at 12:26 pm to Night Vision
Posted on 12/4/25 at 12:26 pm to Night Vision
No tax breaks for you 
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Posted on 12/4/25 at 12:28 pm to Night Vision
Give to Caesar, Oh shite never mind
Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:11 pm to Night Vision
It's racist of the Church to think that everyone named "Jesus" is of Hispanic decent.
Also, if ICE was there, wouldn't they have also nabbed the 3 Wise Men, because they came from the East (unless they had H-1B visas)
Also, if ICE was there, wouldn't they have also nabbed the 3 Wise Men, because they came from the East (unless they had H-1B visas)
Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:33 pm to Night Vision
If that happened at my church, I would go to a different church.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:34 pm to Night Vision
Been saying they are a problem with immigration.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:40 pm to Zach
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They also gave a LOT of money to military campaigns during the middle ages. The king was always very appreciative.
May want to read about what happened to the Knights Templar.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:45 pm to Night Vision
I'm a proud and active Catholic, but also a staunch conservative. This is utterly ridiculous. None of the parishes in my area would ever stoop so low.
"Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's."
"Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's."
Posted on 12/4/25 at 2:54 pm to Night Vision
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Well, for one, they probably wouldn't be illegally crossing the border into a foreign country. IN fact, Joseph and Mary were literally traveling to Bethlehem specifically to comply with the law and register for the Roman census. Kinda flies in the face of the whole argument, but don't let that stop you, padre.
Libtards ignore the most significant and relevant fact in this whole story,
What did Joseph and Mary ultimately do after Jesus was born?
They returned home.
This post was edited on 12/4/25 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 12/4/25 at 2:56 pm to Night Vision
Joke thieves. Bill Maher made this joke 2 weeks ago.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 2:57 pm to Night Vision
It should send red flags to everyone in a congregation if their church is pushing politics, no matter what side they’re pushing.
That’s not a real church.
That’s not a real church.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 2:59 pm to Cosmo
quote:No, just “immigrants” … in Egypt.
still that narrative that Mary and Joseph were illegal immigrants
Posted on 12/4/25 at 3:10 pm to Night Vision
Why are DIMs so stupid? And why do catholics not read the actual Bible?
Joseph and Mary returned to their hometowns to pay taxes, is what that scene depicts. They werent illegals in Bethlehem, At All. There would have been no raid on anyone in that scene
Sounds exactly like what Trump is doing. Everybody just go home
Joseph and Mary returned to their hometowns to pay taxes, is what that scene depicts. They werent illegals in Bethlehem, At All. There would have been no raid on anyone in that scene
Sounds exactly like what Trump is doing. Everybody just go home
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And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David. To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 3:21 pm to EasterEgg
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I'm a proud and active Catholic, but also a staunch conservative. This is utterly ridiculous. None of the parishes in my area would ever stoop so low.
I am also Catholic. We got a new bishop and then the new pope obviously. The diocese the bishop came from has a large hispanic and I suspect illegal population. The church leaders are compelled to assist these people and to call out what they deem to be bad behavior towards them.
The pope was in Peru for many years and he too will obviously plead that we are kind and helpful to those south and Central Americans who've come to our country.
As a parishioner I'm obviously conflicted. There are many hispanics in our diocese and at my church. By all accounts there are wonderful people.
But I as an American want our laws to be followed and the church to call out what prevents these people having the best life they can in their countries or origin. So it raises my hackles when their statements are asking that I accept illegal immigration.
As I've said, there is a to of land in Central and South America for these people to live. It is time for those countries to get better.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 3:32 pm to Night Vision
At least a 2nd commandment violation has been addressed
But seriously, it's very interesting to me how much diversity of belief and practice there is within the RCC.
But seriously, it's very interesting to me how much diversity of belief and practice there is within the RCC.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 3:51 pm to Night Vision
What a facking moron!!!
Posted on 12/4/25 at 3:57 pm to FooManChoo
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But seriously, it's very interesting to me how much diversity of belief and practice there is within the RCC.
I can help you with that. We have a published Catechism. If it's not in the Catechism it is not a Roman Catholic belief or doctrine.
LINK
It's standard for the Baby Jesus to remain absent from the Nativity scene until Christmas Eve, when He is born. In RCC Nativity scenes, Baby Jesus is placed into the scene on Christmas Eve and not before.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 4:00 pm to Night Vision
Revoke their tax free status
Posted on 12/4/25 at 4:15 pm to Champagne
quote:Thanks, but the nativity thing (more specifically the ideological liberalism on display with the ICE sign) is not the only thing in mind with my comment. There are a many beliefs and practices that differ from parish to parish and so on, which is why Catholics like yourself make comments about not wanting to attend this particular church or that one.
I can help you with that. We have a published Catechism. If it's not in the Catechism it is not a Roman Catholic belief or doctrine.
LINK
It's standard for the Baby Jesus to remain absent from the Nativity scene until Christmas Eve, when He is born. In RCC Nativity scenes, Baby Jesus is placed into the scene on Christmas Eve and not before.
This post was edited on 12/4/25 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 12/4/25 at 4:33 pm to FooManChoo
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Thanks, but the nativity thing (more specifically the ideological liberalism on display with the ICE sign) is not the only thing in mind with my comment. There are a many beliefs and practices that differ from parish to parish and so on, which is why Catholics like yourself make comments about not wanting to attend this particular church or that one.
What specifically are the "many beliefs and practices that differ from parish to parish" to which you refer? Which three concern you most? Explain how these different beliefs and practices violate the printed Catechism.
Maybe I can help you form a deeper understanding.
The Nativity scene before Christmas Eve on Church grounds never includes Baby Jesus because we are still waiting for Him to appear. I don't agree with the funny joke sign, either, but, Baby Jesus being absent is always the case before Christmas Eve.
This post was edited on 12/4/25 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 12/4/25 at 4:56 pm to Champagne
quote:Here are five that come to mind:
What specifically are the "many beliefs and practices that differ from parish to parish" to which you refer? Which three concern you most?
1. Continuation of the charismatic sign-gifts: some parishes practice and emphasize the continuation of the sign-gifts like tongues, prophecy, and healing, where others do not
2. Liturgical style and reverence: some parishes have more traditional liturgies with Latin chants and kneeling, etc.,, while others have a more casual and contemporary liturgy and worship experience
3. Marian devotion and popular piety: some parishes put a large emphasis on Marian processions, consecrations, and imagery, while others keep Marian and saintly devotion to a minimum, focusing more on the Mass and sacraments.
4. Approaches to moral and social teaching (application of the faith): even when official doctrine is the same, there are differences in teaching and application of that doctrine from parish to parish. Some have a strong focus on traditional and "conservative" applications while others focus more on social-justice themes and "liberal" applications, even in regards to sexual ethics.
5. Views on the authority of the Magisterium and Vatican II: some parishes stick strongly to the reforms of Vatican II while others want to "reform the reform" and even stick to a Latin Mass to express skepticism or even disagreement with those reforms.
quote:Oh I'm not concerned with whether or not they violate printed Catechism so much, but that they are different in belief and/or practice within a supposedly unified body.
Explain how these different beliefs and practices violate the printed Catechism.
There are ranges of belief and practice within Catholicism that represent division within Protestantism. The difference is that Catholicism has maintained a singular organizational institution while Protestants don't believe a singular organizational institution is necessary to express the one Church of Jesus Christ. Where Catholics diss on Protestants for the division we have, Catholics have quite a bit of division of their own within their organization.
The unity of Catholicism is primarily expressed through a singular organizational structure, rather than total unity in belief and practice. I think such "unity" is pretty hollow, like a political party that is full of conservatives and liberals, and the expression of that party changing from leader to leader.
This post was edited on 12/4/25 at 4:57 pm
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