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re: Carney says partnership with CCP is much less of a security risk than with the U.S.

Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:09 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:09 am to
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It’s been absolutely wild, to see the man who’s “the toughest on the Chinese and Communism”, give more power and strength to the Chinese, than any other US president.

*Since Clinton

But Canada and the EU shedding relationship with the US and moving to China would be the most pro-foreign China policy since Clinton's terrible China policy
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:09 am to
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Pushing away one of our closest allies and most important trading partners to ultimately strengthen the CCP would be such a historic political failure.


Huh? You're aware this is about Canada?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:10 am to
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It does apply because Carney is all about that. His pivot to China is to gain access to trade he has fricked up with the U.S., and most likely on purpose. His main goal is for a globalist future.

China opposes most forms of "globalism" so it's tough to argue partnering with an anti-globalist state promotes the very thing China is against

China promotes pro-China policies. Most forms of "globalism" require subservience to an international organization. China doesn't do that, which is why they're anti-globalist.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:12 am to
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Huh? You're aware this is about Canada?

Yes.

Canada, prior to the trade war, was one of our closest allies and most important trading partners.

Our largest trading partners prior to the trade war:

1. EU
2. Mexico
3. Canda




4. China
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
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Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:12 am to
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most important trading partners


We are their most important trading partner dummy
Posted by JellyRoll
Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:14 am to
There it is, the truth. Canada hasn't been a good partner for a long while. It's akin to your best friend "ally" fricking your wife, but because he takes you golfing and hunting, he's a good ally and you decide it's better to not rock the boat, and stop him from fricking your wife. But hey, you have maintained a great ally. Congrats

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:14 am to
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We are their most important trading partner dummy


And? That has no relevance to the words you quoted

It seems that Trump's trade war is changing their most important trading partner to China, which is baked into my initial comments.

Whatever trade from the US they replace with China hurts the US doubly. Not only do we miss out on the trade, but China is strengthened.

In what way is that a good policy in your eyes?
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:20 am to
You keep saying it would be bad, and I agree.

Although it has already happened.

Trump intentionally pushed Canada away. Repeatedly.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:25 am to
I don't think it's over.

Returning to pre-2025 status with the US > whatever they can get with China. Trump's neutered and the electorate just rejected him. Canada just has to wait 2 years and it's unlikely whomever replaces Trump, DEM or Republican, will engage in the stupid trade wars Trump did.
Posted by dafif
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Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:32 am to
I dont think canada has 2 years
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:34 am to
What's going to happen to Canada over the next 2 years?
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:34 am to
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Pushing away one of our closest allies and most important trading partners to ultimately strengthen the CCP would be such a historic political failure.


Who’s doing the pushing?

“Closest allies” - Maybe in the past, and they’re an important trading partner, but their ruthless attack on free speech, on the dignity of life, on freedom of commerce, on energy production, on capitalism and free markets, on religious institutions, on truth itself, leads me to say emphatically NO, they are not out closest ally. Not close. All while they count on the U.S. (mooch) on our defense protection and technological innovations, not least of which is health care.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
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Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:36 am to
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Canada

quote:

one of our closest allies

I'll let you in on a Canadian secret. They've always despised Americans. Now they're just more open about it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
487875 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:37 am to
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Who’s doing the pushing?

Trump with his trade war and shredding his very own USMCA

quote:

Maybe in the past, and they’re an important trading partner, but their ruthless attack on free speech, on the dignity of life, on freedom of commerce, on energy production, on capitalism and free markets, on religious institutions, on truth itself, leads me to say emphatically NO, they are not out closest ally.

With your standards, we have no allies.

Most everywhere else in the world has no 1A protection on speech.

Most everywhere else in the world is less capitalist than the US

And being a close ally doesn't require mirroring of all policies. If that were the case we would have no close allies.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:39 am to
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Good grief you have mental issues


slo cuck rino was just fine with canuckstan fricking us on tariffs for years

until orange man told them to piss off with this playing my friend and stabbing us in the back.

actually yes, with all the resources and manufacturing capability canada and USA have.........partnered together........we should both tell china to frick off....but canada is too cucked. so sad!
This post was edited on 11/11/26 at 8:44 am
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
11916 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:40 am to
with your commentary , its obvious you have never bought American cheddar cheese in Canada.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
25744 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:40 am to
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Whatever trade from the US they replace with China hurts the US doubly. Not only do we miss out on the trade, but China is strengthened.


This will change in about two years and a few months. Canada hates Trump as much as the dems do. Canada isn't likely concerned they will lose the US as a trading partner in the long run.
Posted by HappyDance
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:43 am to
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How can you spin that potential scenario any other way?


Orange Man Good
Posted by BTROleMisser
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Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:44 am to
Good. Let him partner with the CCP then.
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:44 am to
Carney is equivalent to what the dems would elect.
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