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re: Candace Owens
Posted on 2/15/20 at 12:03 pm to jclem11
Posted on 2/15/20 at 12:03 pm to jclem11
quote:Plenty of people have gone from being a liberal to a conservative. Still not seeing the issue here.
I am not aware of her ever claiming to be a progressive but I do know she claimed the "liberal" label before overnight becoming a conservative.
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Posted on 2/15/20 at 12:05 pm to Saint Alfonzo
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Ahh, I get it now. You're one of those insecure dudes who are intimidated by intelligent women, particularly black women.
You are projecting here my dude. You have yet to demonstrate she is intelligent.
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Calling her a token and her supporters, simps, simply underscores your inadequacies.
I call a spade a spade. You are the one in her white knighting and simping for her.
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She's not going to frick you, and that's your real problem with her.
I couldn't give less of a frick about Candace Owens my dude. I'm here to stir the pot and laugh at you guys fawning over her.
Posted on 2/15/20 at 12:13 pm to jclem11
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jclem11
Lol. Hilarious how a smart black chick has you riled up. Just look at the language you use. Token, white knight, simp, call a spade a spade. You're clearly dumber than a bag of hammers, entirely incapable of intelligent discourse.
This post was edited on 2/15/20 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 2/15/20 at 12:27 pm to jclem11
quote:Ive seen it. I agree that it wasn't her best showing.
Did you watch the clip from Rogan?
quote:Well shite.. Who in politics isnt about "talking points"!?
nothing but a talking point machine
And how can you not say that same damn thing about the people she's replying to in that video that you're avoiding to comment on? And how can you rip her for using "talking points", all while using buzzwords like "grifter" and "boomer"? fricking clown.. Look - just because you label some bullshite a "talking point", doesn't mean it doesn't pack truth. But you already knew that..
Posted on 2/15/20 at 12:31 pm to Saint Alfonzo
I KNOW Tami Lahren is a fraud, Beck sent her packing years ago because she is no conservative. I would trust Candace Owens to be legit way more than her. This comes from an old,redneck fart too
Posted on 2/15/20 at 12:32 pm to Suck Out West
Look, the best way I can explain Candace Owens detractors is the following:
The problem is not that Owens has right-wing viewpoints. There are plenty of other black figureheads who have conservative stances on politics and just lack the media attention necessary to build a larger platform.
The problem is the rhetoric and delivery of those viewpoints.
Two definitions of rhetoric
***the art of effective or persuasive speaking or writing, especially the use of figures of speech and other compositional techniques.
***language designed to have a persuasive or impressive effect on its audience, but often regarded as lacking in sincerity or meaningful content.
She relies on propaganda talking points such as "blacks are brain-washed" or "democratic plantation" that a certain segment of this board likes because it matches their world view. The irony is that those exact same terms could be used for rural white voters in areas that have been GOP for decades but not seen any significant economic growth.
This is inherently ignorant, not just on Owens but any conservative commentator. People have multiple reasons they vote Democratic and many of them based on the same personal motivations, fears, and groupthink that Republicans do. Nobody is coerced to vote for either party. There is no "plantation". Conservatives are just angry because people don't want to live the same way they do or have different priorities in life.
The only thing this type of language does is prevent Blacks or any targeted group from joining the GOP. You adore people like Owens because "I don't want to acknowledge there may be underlying biases to a problem, so I will just ignore the problem"
The problem is not that Owens has right-wing viewpoints. There are plenty of other black figureheads who have conservative stances on politics and just lack the media attention necessary to build a larger platform.
The problem is the rhetoric and delivery of those viewpoints.
Two definitions of rhetoric
***the art of effective or persuasive speaking or writing, especially the use of figures of speech and other compositional techniques.
***language designed to have a persuasive or impressive effect on its audience, but often regarded as lacking in sincerity or meaningful content.
She relies on propaganda talking points such as "blacks are brain-washed" or "democratic plantation" that a certain segment of this board likes because it matches their world view. The irony is that those exact same terms could be used for rural white voters in areas that have been GOP for decades but not seen any significant economic growth.
This is inherently ignorant, not just on Owens but any conservative commentator. People have multiple reasons they vote Democratic and many of them based on the same personal motivations, fears, and groupthink that Republicans do. Nobody is coerced to vote for either party. There is no "plantation". Conservatives are just angry because people don't want to live the same way they do or have different priorities in life.
The only thing this type of language does is prevent Blacks or any targeted group from joining the GOP. You adore people like Owens because "I don't want to acknowledge there may be underlying biases to a problem, so I will just ignore the problem"
Posted on 2/15/20 at 12:36 pm to volod
I find this thread funny because I really can't know if she really has converted to conservatism or not and neither can her detractors
But what I DO know is that the attacks on her are completely predictable.
Every black who has EVER become well known for espousing conservative views creates a five alarm fire for the left's plantation owners.
That the people in this thread think this isn't completely transparent is just comical
But what I DO know is that the attacks on her are completely predictable.
Every black who has EVER become well known for espousing conservative views creates a five alarm fire for the left's plantation owners.
That the people in this thread think this isn't completely transparent is just comical
Posted on 2/15/20 at 2:16 pm to ShortyRob
"She's nothing but talking points!"
And if she turned into Candace F. Buckley or droned on for 48 minutes about some arcane point of the tax code they'd bust her for being a bore.
And if she turned into Candace F. Buckley or droned on for 48 minutes about some arcane point of the tax code they'd bust her for being a bore.
Posted on 2/15/20 at 2:22 pm to jclem11
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How old was the clip? If it was over a year or two old I can believe Owens was pretty “green”, she’s become a very good conservative pundit over the past couple of years....it takes time.
Dude...she unironically said she doesn't trust a website with .org in the name.
How are you people still simping for her?
It is fricking pathetic and she still won't frick you no matter how hard you simp.
You seem agitated .....lol!
This post was edited on 2/15/20 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 2/15/20 at 2:29 pm to jclem11
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lolwut? I am not a prog or "dim" duderino.
Sorry you are too stupid to recognize an obvious grifter like Owens.
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nounINFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN a person who engages in petty or small-scale swindling. "I saw him as a grifter who preys upon people"
Who’s a grifter? Who’s a fraud? Who’s bullshitting who? Lol! Grab a damn mirror baw!
Posted on 2/15/20 at 2:34 pm to volod
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There is no "plantation".
Whoa. Thanks man. Your cutting edge analysis has saved the day for us knuckle draggers. We thought blacks were still being held prisoners and picking cotton. Whew that is a relief got to tell ya.
Posted on 2/15/20 at 2:36 pm to volod
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volod
Idiotic take
NO GROUP votes at 95% or better one way or the other got principled reasons
None!
Posted on 2/15/20 at 2:42 pm to ShortyRob
She sure does have y'all worked up.
Posted on 2/15/20 at 2:54 pm to ShortyRob
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Every black who has EVER become well known for espousing conservative views creates a five alarm fire for the left's plantation owners.
I admit that the Boy Who Cried Wolf is in order here. There have been media attacks on REAL Black conservatives so much that it only makes sense people would stop listen after so many bad takes.
To be fair, it's only Owens and Kanye that I don't believe are true conservatives. Kanye in particular is worse than Owens because he actually has a history of being a reactionary.
Remember George Bush Jr and Katrina? Also remember that Kanye has a personal friendship with Trump. Is he going to be pro Republican when Trump is no longer POTUS.
Posted on 2/15/20 at 3:17 pm to nuwaydawg
That woman can tell it like it is, the two white women were clearly out matched. Ms Owens has a great future ahead of her. I just wish more black people would hear her words.
Posted on 2/15/20 at 4:28 pm to volod
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I admit that the Boy Who Cried Wolf is in order here. There have been media attacks on REAL Black conservatives so much that it only makes sense people would stop listen after so many bad takes. To be fair, it's only Owens and Kanye that I don't believe are true conservatives. Kanye in particular is worse than Owens because he actually has a history of being a reactionary. Remember George Bush Jr and Katrina? Also remember that Kanye has a personal friendship with Trump. Is he going to be pro Republican when Trump is no longer POTUS.
All of that is great but NONE of that is why Kanye, Candace, or any prior black supporting Republicans has been attacked.
They are ALL attacked for the same reason.
That reason is that there is absolutely NOTHING normal about any group voting at a 95% rate for either side. This result is achieved 100% via fear and, having ANY black take the Republican side without going scorched Earth on them risks this fear not holding any longer.
That is the ONLY reason they are attacked. There is literally ZERO nuance to it.
Posted on 2/15/20 at 5:15 pm to Pussykat
Laying the real issues out there for black America. The Dems just want to play identity politics. She’s the modern day MLK fighting for better race relations all the while msm do all they can to silence her
Posted on 2/15/20 at 6:13 pm to jclem11
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Because she is.
Don't tell that to the boomer white dudes
Excuse me?
Posted on 2/15/20 at 6:14 pm to volod
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She relies on propaganda talking points such as "blacks are brain-washed" or "democratic plantation" that a certain segment of this board likes because it matches their world view. The irony is that those exact same terms could be used for rural white voters in areas that have been GOP for decades
Except whites don't vote 90-95% one way or another.
False equivalence.
This post was edited on 2/15/20 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 2/15/20 at 7:22 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Except whites don't vote 90-95% one way or another.
Such as high percentage is more than just poor Black people. That means that Democratic control over Blacks goes beyond socioeconomic lines.
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