re: Candace Owen's goes there. Vicious sneak attack on U.S.S. Liberty by Israel

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You keep using My Lai as an equivalent to the Liberty attack. We were fighting an insurgency in South Vietnam. My Lai was an extreme and misguided attempt to fight our enemy. The Israelis knowingly and intentionally attacked an United States Navy ship - their ally. To compare or equate the two is, at best, erroneous.

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You can play with all the differences in the two separate incidents but my point remains. Raping and mutilating children was an extreme and misguided attempt to fight our enemy. Agreed. Never disputed the facts of the incident or the motivation.

And....?

I am trying to understand why one is less heinous than the other and what makes one incident indelibly the nature of that country while the other should not. Is there some scoring system to where one incident does not get labeled as the "nature" of a country? Is there a statute of limitations for certain acts? Does attacking your ally get less points than raping and mutilating children, regardless of what they were trying to achieve? Does the fact that the USS Liberty had no women or children on it matter? Does a public apology absolve a country for a cover up even though it would likely have remained a coverup if it were actually up to the powers that be instead of whistleblowers. Does the fact that the US is complicit in the coverup make Israel look worse? Or does that make cowardice a nature that can indelibly applied to the US because we didn't want to make Israel look bad for political reasons? Every situation like this is different but that does not mean you can't argue how we look at them in comparison. It is messy but I think the same rules should be applied to all.

And this was originally my argument with whiskey's statement that it is in Israel's nature to murder their allies while it most likely he would take major issue with someone from Vietnam saying it is the nature of the US to rape and mutilate children, although extreme and misguided, to fight our enemies. Each person is going to look at those two incidents and come away with something different. If you know a child that was raped, you likely think My Lai was worse. If you have a family member killed in action, USS Liberty is worse.

I know that these back and forths lose what the original point being made is but that is my point. If you label one incident (or many which both the US and Israel have) as the nature of a country, be prepared for people to label a those incidents for your own country as indicative of your nature as well.

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Yeah, just minor details, like allies vs. enemies. Totally the same thing.

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Sorry if critical thinking is beyond you. I tried walking you through that issue but you might have gotten lost. Can't help everyone i guess.

No, you're a zionist making a lame attempt to draw equivalency. The only person it's working on is you.

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If you think there aren’t, you aren’t paying attention.

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I was being sarcastic, factor in the next line.

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Zionist Shapiro

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Dude is a massive shitbag.

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Is the US supposed to be judged on some of their darkest military or intelligence moments as well? I am pretty sure we have a lot of them that we actually know about.

Would it be fair for the Vietnamese say the core nature of the US can be taken from the My Lai Massacre? It occurred within a year of this USS Liberty incident and those were unarmed civilians (mostly women) that were raped, executed and mutilated.

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well, douchebag, Seymour Hersch is the one who broke the story of My Lai, and it's you fricktards on the left who have cancelled Hersch for being a truth teller


can't even hardly find his articles anymore, and he's told folks why, because the warmonger left cancelled him

The MIC will absolutely not let a My Lai type story out again. People like Sy Hersh have to post independently. Assange was destroyed for a reason.

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Claiming that this one moment of video means Trump is adversarial toward Israel is asinine.

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As was your billboard picture.

Look, I have no idea what the real deal is, I do know that I have fought really hard for Trump these last 9 years, and I am not going to be doing much second "guessing" on what is said by others regarding his true intentions, before he even takes office.

Let's see what happens after all the wild arse shite that's currently happening, (seemingly all at once) and the even wilder shite that's coming between now and inauguration. "IF" we make to then.

SFP has some new competition.