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Can someone explain what this EO signed about fixing your own car?
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:22 am
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:22 am
I know I can Google or GPT it but I prefer getting my news from normal people
What is this about allowing people to fix their own vehicles now?
What is this about allowing people to fix their own vehicles now?
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:24 am to FLTech
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I know I can Google or GPT it but I prefer getting my news from normal people
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:25 am to FLTech
I know you couldn't buy parts from Tesla before if something went out on your car. I know that you don't really own a John Deere. You own the tractor but they have proprietary ownership of the software that runs the tractor. So essentially they can shut you down if they want.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:26 am to FLTech
Just guessing it might have something to do with Porsche and companies like them. I have a Porsche and if you need an oil change you need a special computer to reset the light. Among other things they make it difficult for the average car owner. I do have a computer to do this but it's probably too many unnecessary steps for most people.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:30 am to Fuzzy Dunlop
Just took delivery from the junkyard, for two Ford engines to replace in trucks for the farm. Shop is air conditioned and the boys enjoy working in the AC versus the heat.
Did the same for a 1970 GTO, when we dropped a 455 Trans Am engine and installed a six pack manifold in. First street car I had where you could see the gas gauge go down as the mph climbed.
Did the same for a 1970 GTO, when we dropped a 455 Trans Am engine and installed a six pack manifold in. First street car I had where you could see the gas gauge go down as the mph climbed.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:31 am to FLTech
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Can someone explain what this EO signed about fixing your own car?
In short... many manufacturers are either locking out people or planning on locking out people from being able to plug in to the vehicles to run diagnostics and reset maintenance indicators. Making the dealer the only way to get your vehicle correctly diagnosed and fixed.
Pretty ironic in that the dealers are having so much trouble keeping technicians because they keep running to open their own places or work in independent shops because of the dealer pay system.
This post was edited on 6/30/26 at 10:33 am
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:40 am to FLTech
Trump Learns of Right to Repair Battle from Ford and GM, Farley Responds
Basically, the big boys are lobbying that repairs should only be conducted by dealer service citing safety as their primary bullshite cause. Trump said no
Basically, the big boys are lobbying that repairs should only be conducted by dealer service citing safety as their primary bullshite cause. Trump said no
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:43 am to FLTech
Manufacturers like Mercedes-Benz are trying to make it so that only Mercedes-Benz dealerships can work on their cars. They designed it so that the new EQS's hood can only be opened by a Mercedes dealership. It’s basically become another profit center to them. More and more manufacturers are doing shite like this.
John Deere started this shite a few years back. I believe there’s still currently a case, making its way through the courts on the right of manufacturers to do shite like this. A few years back someone posted a video on this board about the John Deere situation...
John Deere started this shite a few years back. I believe there’s still currently a case, making its way through the courts on the right of manufacturers to do shite like this. A few years back someone posted a video on this board about the John Deere situation...
This post was edited on 6/30/26 at 10:44 am
Posted on 6/30/26 at 11:04 am to OldNo.7
I was talking to my mechanic recently. Super nice guy. He was telling me that most independent shops won’t work on certain cars (like Mercedes) because of the obscene yearly rates they charges to access their OBD scanner software. Further, DYA mechanics can’t even do simple repairs because they have to essentially reprogram the onboard CPU every time they work on a car.
Also, many cars are being engineered so that the simplest of minor repairs are almost impossible to do without taking apart half the engine. I saw a video the other day of a GM truck needing a new thermostat. It used to be that the thermostat sat right on top of the engine. It was extremely simple to replace. It’s a repair that has to be made relatively often. Now, the entire front end of the car has to be taken off just to replace a f*cking radiator. Basically, it’s turned 10 to 20 minute job into a 6 to 8 hour affair.
Also, many cars are being engineered so that the simplest of minor repairs are almost impossible to do without taking apart half the engine. I saw a video the other day of a GM truck needing a new thermostat. It used to be that the thermostat sat right on top of the engine. It was extremely simple to replace. It’s a repair that has to be made relatively often. Now, the entire front end of the car has to be taken off just to replace a f*cking radiator. Basically, it’s turned 10 to 20 minute job into a 6 to 8 hour affair.
This post was edited on 6/30/26 at 11:05 am
Posted on 6/30/26 at 11:07 am to FLTech
This is going to become a very complicated issue as the tech in cars expands.
As with most things, I don't see government as the solution. In fact, I think in time you will see government possibly supporting protecting this proprietary technology via national security regs/claims.
As with most things, I don't see government as the solution. In fact, I think in time you will see government possibly supporting protecting this proprietary technology via national security regs/claims.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 11:09 am to Fuzzy Dunlop
Does this mean Bugatti has to sell parts to Matt Armstrong so he can finish his rebuilds?
Posted on 6/30/26 at 11:11 am to MMauler
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More and more manufacturers are doing shite like this.
It's literally the reason McDonald's shake machines are never working
The manufacturer sued someone who came up with a way to fix the machines and was selling the repair to McDonald's franchise owners.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 11:12 am to Broke
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You own the tractor
I'm not even sure that's correct anymore
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but they have proprietary ownership of the software
It's worse than that
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So essentially they can shut you down if they want.
And they can keep you from repairing it yourself which is horseshite.
I think a major baklash is coming to the whole "Subscription based economy". People are sick of it.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 11:13 am to FLTech
Trump recently had to pardon someone who was sentenced to six frickin years in jail in some liberal shite hole because he was working on his own tractor at his own home. This will be why he took action on this issue.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 11:14 am to Broke
It's way more than just that in the tractor game.
You can't fix anything on them. They lock you out of everything. A simple light sensor, that cost 10$ will run you over 3 grand because of all the hoops have to go through.
You can't fix anything on them. They lock you out of everything. A simple light sensor, that cost 10$ will run you over 3 grand because of all the hoops have to go through.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 11:15 am to FLTech
It's not even an EO, its a "Presidential Memo". Basically a press release where DJT is saying "This would be a good thing for consumers, so I think it should happen" but there isn't any action toward making it happen
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The memorandum, titled “Lowering the Cost of Living by Promoting the Freedom to Fix,” directs federal agencies to evaluate policies that may limit consumers’ ability to repair their own vehicles or choose where to have repairs performed. It does not create any new laws or immediately change what drivers can do today.
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At this time, the memorandum does not change existing repair laws or require automakers to provide additional access. Any significant changes would likely require further regulatory action or legislation
Posted on 6/30/26 at 11:15 am to FLTech
I believe Virginia has a law against fixing your own car.
Try Google.
Try Google.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 11:17 am to Codythetiger
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It's way more than just that in the tractor game.
Recently has to fix a steering column on a Kubota. The frickin dealership wanted like 800 bucks for some parts I was able to buy online for less than 50.
That frickin shite should be criminal.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 11:28 am to FLTech
I think a lot of it is about software updates and subscription services of newer vehicles. At some point, you’ll never truly be able to pay off a car due to proprietary software that will shut you down if you don’t continue to pay for updates even after you paid off the hardware.
Everybody except me seems to have to have gps, heated seats, xm radio, etc. but eventually it will probably apply to AC and power train once they’ve got everybody hooked on the concept of continuous monthly subscriptions.
Everybody except me seems to have to have gps, heated seats, xm radio, etc. but eventually it will probably apply to AC and power train once they’ve got everybody hooked on the concept of continuous monthly subscriptions.
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