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re: Can dignity exist in a capitalist society?
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:11 am to 4cubbies
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:11 am to 4cubbies
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Do you think society treats homeless people with dignity?
That has nothing to do with their own self proclaimed status or values.
Again, you simply judge "dignity" by the opinion of others. Its specific to an individual.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:11 am to Y.A. Tittle
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In other words, not something a "capitalist society" could ever take from someone. I guess we agree.
People do possess dignity but our society doesn’t treat everyone as though they do.
My prof claimed dignity is distributed by society based on who has capital.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:12 am to 4cubbies
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People do possess dignity but our society doesn’t treat everyone as though they do.
Again you judge dignity by the perception of others. Thats not what dignity is.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:12 am to 4cubbies
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Capitalism treats humans as a means to an end (profit), so can any human be dignified when they are essentially dehumanized by our economic system?
Tell us your better system.
Capitalism gives people a means to succeed. If you don't like where you are go somewhere else. You are completely free to do that.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:12 am to 4cubbies
Dignity ONLY exists in a free enterprise fueled economy- especially on that subscribes to Judeo-Christian values.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:13 am to 4cubbies
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Capitalism
Capitalism is the worst system we have!.....except of course for all the others
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:13 am to 4cubbies
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My prof claimed dignity is distributed by society based on who has capital.
Guy tipped $4.7 million this year to OnlyFans model Sophie Rain
Clearly
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:13 am to 4cubbies
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My prof claimed dignity is distributed by society based on who has capital.
Seems to be the professor may have a more materialist view of dignity than the overall "capitalist society."
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:13 am to SlowFlowPro
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I wonder how cubbies' professor would react to her responding that dignity was based in God-given intrinsic humanity and not a system of humans.
He said that gods don’t create humans; humans create gods.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:13 am to 4cubbies
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People do possess dignity but our society doesn’t treat everyone as though they do.
You and your professor are flat out wrong.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:14 am to 4cubbies
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He said that gods don’t create humans; humans create gods.
That is irrelevant to what he claimed.
Whether Gods were created by man or not, religion created the concept of dignity.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:14 am to 4cubbies
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My prof claimed dignity is distributed by society based on who has capital.
And it didn't occur to you to ask your prof for his definition of dignity? It's an amorphous term that it is utterly meaningless without an agreed upon definition. Pure sophistry.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:14 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:A contrivance in your mind.
What else do you call government-imposed regulation and redistribution programs?
Lowering personal taxes is not leftist.
Replacement of prima facie personal tax revenue decrease with tariffs is not leftist.
Decreasing regulation is not leftist.
Enabling/encouraging small business is not leftist.
Decreasing crime is not leftist.
Cutting government inefficiency is not leftist.
etc., etc., etc.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:15 am to 4cubbies
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He said that gods don’t create humans; humans create gods.
The most on-brand thing I'll hear this week.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:15 am to NC_Tigah
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A contrivance in your mind.
Tariffs and MAHA are definitely progressive.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:17 am to 4cubbies
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Can dignity exist in a capitalist society?
quote:Nothing is more dehumanizing that socialism. The idea that your personal talents, skills, and potential don't belong to you, but rather belong to the state is the most de-humanizing thing I can think of.
Capitalism treats humans as a means to an end (profit), so can any human be dignified when they are essentially dehumanized by our economic system?
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:17 am to SlowFlowPro
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You sound like a big MAGA type now. This is their exact rhetoric around MAGA-centric regulations like tariffs.
You were doing fine until this. Tariffs are a reaction of self preservation in capitalism when others don’t allow free choices
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:17 am to Taxing Authority
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Nothing is more dehumanizing that socialism. The idea that your personal talents, skills, and potential don't belong to you, but rather belong to the state is the most de-humanizing thing I can think of.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:17 am to 4cubbies
quote:This is not a person you should trust.
He said that gods don’t create humans; humans create gods.
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