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re: Campbell's, Dollar General announce "pricing action" in response to tariffs
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:55 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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It's economically inefficient and overall bad for our economy/SOL. Not "evil".
No it's not. But like I said. you do you boo.
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And your other argument about "never spending a minute of our lives without tariffs" ignores this question: has Trump increased or decreased them in our lives since January 1, 2025?
Are you kidding me! LOL... "Hey guys... never has tariffs increased in our history!"
Read a fooking book man!
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:56 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Domestics will, for sure even with no tariff liability. If not, they're leaving money on the table.
If I were a domestic company I would lean into the opposite and steal all the business I could from foreign producing ones.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:56 am to BCreed1
Firstly, the article and the earnings call listed pork price increases as "commodity inflation," not a tariff. The CEO cited increasing input costs in addition to the things you listed. Take a guess what I, and posters like Taxing Authority, Harry Caray, Ten Wheels have been trying to tell you about indirect increases even if that specific product isn't tariffed or imported...
Secondly, Hormel is a parent company of other brands that rely on imports because there are products that are essentially impossible to grow here. What do you think happens to prices if they're losing their arse in one department?
Thirdly, why didn't you address the litany of other increases listed in the OP and choose to focus on the semantics of one part of one article? You may as well take the SDV route and say "just stop eating canned food if you hate tariffs!"
Secondly, Hormel is a parent company of other brands that rely on imports because there are products that are essentially impossible to grow here. What do you think happens to prices if they're losing their arse in one department?
Thirdly, why didn't you address the litany of other increases listed in the OP and choose to focus on the semantics of one part of one article? You may as well take the SDV route and say "just stop eating canned food if you hate tariffs!"
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:56 am to JCdawg
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This a great way to tax those who are otherwise not paying federal taxes.
Bunch of tax and spend liberals in this thread.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:56 am to BCreed1
quote:So yes, he is increasing tariffs far beyond what we've ever known in our lives, and consumer prices are and will increase as a result. Thanks!
And your other argument about "never spending a minute of our lives without tariffs" ignores this question: has Trump increased or decreased them in our lives since January 1, 2025?
Are you kidding me! LOL... "Hey guys... never has tariffs increased in our history!"
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:57 am to Ingeniero
You are also a dollar tree and campbells soup guy 
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:58 am to Taxing Authority
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Exactly. I have a 100% trade deficit with grocery store. Clearly I've been getting ripped off for decades.
That's only possible because you either inherited money or ran a trade (in goods or services) surplus with your employer or your clients. No individual or country can run a permanent external deficit with all of their trade partners combined.
This post was edited on 9/5/25 at 10:00 am
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:59 am to Arkaea79
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If I were a domestic company I would lean into the opposite
If half of your competitors are raising prices, what pressures do you think are on domestic pricing?
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:00 am to Green Chili Tiger
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Bunch of tax and spend liberals in this thread.
I was referring to the 50% who pay no federal taxes, learn to comprehend.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:00 am to BCreed1
quote:Literally the broken window fallacy.
1- The producer of a product make "X" in profit.
2- the importer gives the producer access to the highest purchasing power in the world. Our consumers.
3- The importer does this for a profit. and that is added into the the price the consumer pays.
4- When the cost of making it does not increase, but a tariff is added, they have room to absorb it. They make deals with the importers to share that.
5- This results in the same pricing points for the consumer and the producer and importer still make a profit.
6- taxes on people are lowered and they buy more.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:01 am to Harry Caray
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What were our tariff rates in the 30 previous years vs. what's going into effect now? I want to see how similar they are.
Then do research. It's not hard to find tariff rates throughout history and compare them.
A TV in 1980 faced up to a 25% tariff. Guess where they are now... Up to 25%... with Trump's added.
U.S. tariffs on TVs depended on the country of origin, with TVs from China facing existing tariffs that were raised in September 2024, while TVs imported from Mexico were generally tariff-free due to the USMCA agreement.
Again... somebody steps in and takes that market share..
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:02 am to Ingeniero
Meh......I hear Campbell's is the Swatch of soups.
This post was edited on 9/5/25 at 10:03 am
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:03 am to wdhalgren
quote:Nah man. The grocery store has never bought a damn thing from me. Complete trade deficit. Total ripoff.
That's only possible because you either inherited money or ran a trade (in goods or services) surplus with your employer or your clients. No individual or country can run a permanent external deficit with all of their trade partners combined.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:04 am to Ingeniero
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Firstly, the article and the earnings call listed pork price increases as "commodity inflation," not a tariff.
No no. You added it to make tariffs bad in a thread labeled TARIFFS. You were busted on it by more people then me.
Period.
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Thirdly, why didn't you address the litany of other increases listed in the OP and choose to focus on the semantics of one part of one article? You may as well take the SDV route and say "just stop eating canned food if you hate tariffs!"
I have. Prices are not going to sky rocket at all.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:04 am to Harry Caray
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Now there isn't capacity. This is 2025, not 1975. Modern problems require modern solutions. Tariffs ain't modern.
What's the modern solution?
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:04 am to wdhalgren
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No individual or country can run a permanent external deficit with all of their trade partners combined.
If we are wealthier and our dollar is stronger, sure we can.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:05 am to BCreed1
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Are you kidding me! LOL... "Hey guys... never has tariffs increased in our history!"
Why not answer the question
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has Trump increased or decreased them in our lives since January 1, 2025?
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Read a fooking book man!
I have
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The Smoot-Hawley tariff of 1930, which raised U.S. duties on hundreds of imported goods to record levels, is America’s most infamous trade law. It is often associated with—and sometimes blamed for—the onset of the Great Depression, the collapse of world trade, and the global spread of protectionism in the 1930s. Even today, the ghosts of congressmen Reed Smoot and Willis Hawley haunt anyone arguing for higher trade barriers; almost single-handedly, they made protectionism an insult rather than a compliment. In Peddling Protectionism, Douglas Irwin provides the first comprehensive history of the causes and effects of this notorious measure, explaining why it largely deserves its reputation for combining bad politics and bad economics and harming the U.S. and world economies during the Depression.
In four brief, clear chapters, Irwin presents an authoritative account of the politics behind Smoot-Hawley, its economic consequences, the foreign reaction it provoked, and its aftermath and legacy. Starting as a Republican ploy to win the farm vote in the 1928 election by increasing duties on agricultural imports, the tariff quickly grew into a logrolling, pork barrel free-for-all in which duties were increased all around, regardless of the interests of consumers and exporters. After Herbert Hoover signed the bill, U.S. imports fell sharply and other countries retaliated by increasing tariffs on American goods, leading U.S. exports to shrivel as well. While Smoot-Hawley was hardly responsible for the Great Depression, Irwin argues, it contributed to a decline in world trade and provoked discrimination against U.S. exports that lasted decades.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:06 am to Harry Caray
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So yes, he is increasing tariffs far beyond what we've ever known in our lives, and consumer prices are and will increase as a result. Thanks!
LOl... Try again buddy. I gave you and example of tvs.
I can use washing machines if you want.
Total willful ignorance by you few. You form the tariff debate in a box that does not exist.
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:07 am to BCreed1
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I can use washing machines if you want.
Trumps tariffs created washing machine jobs that cost the US consumer $800,000 a job.
Does that sound sustainable?
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Research to be released on Monday by the economists Aaron Flaaen, of the Fed, and Ali Hortacsu and Felix Tintelnot, of Chicago, estimates that consumers bore between 125% and 225% of the costs of the washing machine tariffs. The authors calculate that the tariffs brought in $82 million to the United States Treasury, while raising consumer prices by $1.5 billion.
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The goal of all those moves [tariffs] was to push production….to America. The study authors credit Mr. Trump’s tariffs with 200 new jobs at Whirlpool’s plant in Clyde, Ohio, and a further 1,600 jobs for a Samsung factory in South Carolina and an LG factory in Tennessee. That’s 1,800 new jobs, at the cost—net of tariff revenues—of just under $1.5 billion for American consumers. Or, as the authors calculate, $817,000 per job.
This post was edited on 9/5/25 at 10:09 am
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:09 am to SlowFlowPro
You might want to research that again. Even Milton stated Smoot Hawley did not cause the great depression. The Fed's policy did.
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