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Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:11 am to TSLG
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Why is a kid's shitty science project a national news story.
It wasn't, it became news when the authoritarians came into the picture.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:12 am to BamaFan365
Do your own and let us know.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:12 am to TrueTiger
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That's Part 2, doing something about it.
We can't get past Part 1, recognizing the factual situation.
Because to speak of it is heresy
that's why i said it's sad
the progressive/liberal, in their desire to avoid being mean and icky, will not allow for a path to help these people
hell, even the "immerse them in Western culture" part is on part with racism in their eyes
they truly believe that all cultures are equal and Western culture is bad b/c colonialism destroyed the (then equal) sub-Saharan societies/cultures that existed before Europeans arrived. but-for colonialism, everything would be OK
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:14 am to SlowFlowPro
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IQ is much more malleable and able to be developed than those who rely on this argument like to believe
What would’ve be your reply to a scientific study that showed low income white students outperformed high income blacks on the SAT who had better access to academic resources?
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:14 am to SlowFlowPro
I don't know, maybe going outside and shitting in a trench is superior to western culture.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:16 am to gthog61
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I don't know, maybe going outside and shitting in a trench is superior to western culture.
Or better yet shite on your white sand tropical beaches.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:19 am to SlowFlowPro
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IQ is much more malleable and able to be developed than those who rely on this argument like to believe
This is actually an excellent argument for why it should be studied. If it isn't static then studying it will provide more information about how to maximize the effectiveness of all students.
Even if IQ were static it's likely that the medians of the distributions are only slightly shifted from each other such that the bulk of the populations still reside in the same band
And even that difference might help yield some understanding about how to better educate varying populations
But instead the left wants to approach everybody as if they're the same and then can't figure out why they haven't solved educational outcome differences
Well you aren't going to solve educational outcome differences if you start from false premises and refuse to study any other premises
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:20 am to Strannix
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What would’ve be your reply to a scientific study that showed low income white students outperformed high income blacks on the SAT who had better access to academic resources?
I'm interested, source?
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:21 am to Strannix
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What would’ve be your reply to a scientific study that showed low income white students outperformed high income blacks on the SAT who had better access to academic resources?
i was speaking internationally, but to answer your question, it's REALLY difficult to find groups with exact cultures to compare (especially if we remove various asian ethnic-cultures)
black culture since the welfare state was created in the 60s, has just...not developed into an optimal values system. due to all of the societal and legal issues, you're simply never going to find a group of white people whose lineage had the same variables of development
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:23 am to ShortyRob
oh i agree. that's why it's sad
the assumptions the progressives make (primarily regarding culture), doom those they desire to help
the assumptions the progressives make (primarily regarding culture), doom those they desire to help
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:23 am to SlowFlowPro
I would just like to side note this thread by pointing out that our conversation about the kids project is about a billion times better than what the idiotic School District did.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:23 am to ShortyRob
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Here's some truth bombs
Libs want to play the "shitty project that caused problems" card?
A shitty project done by a black kid studying white privilege would NEVER be banned no matter how pissed the white kids were.
A horribly done project by a female studying the pay gap and asserting it is entirely due to sexism would NEVER be banned
A horribly done project done by the child of an illegal immigrant claiming those who want to deport illegals are racists would NEVER be banned
This story is again 100% about banning inquiry in an area deemed off limits by liberals
Otherwise, they proper response is to tell the kid how he could improve the project
But the left doesn't want him to improve it. They want it hidden
Absolute truth there - it is the ONE WAY --> only signs all over the political/educational/entertainment industries that is the problem here.
No doubt this 'science project' in a high school class was 'poorly done' - as are 99% of all such 'silence projects' in high school classes.
It is in the reaction to the very thought that the premise could be correct that is the problem in society.
Add to your list the 'Hands up don't shoot!" memes that are STILL being used without any pushback from the MSM/educational/entertinament/DEM cabals. In their minds if a proven LIE helps promote the action they want then it is never questioned.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:24 am to Strannix
Careful, I was banned for like 3 years because I made a thread about this topic.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:25 am to BamaFan365
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I would like to see the results of this using a larger sample
I checked to see what Google had to say about this. According to Google, the kids results were probably pretty accurate.
eta: I don't know what the kids results were but if it offended the left they were probably close to what I read.
This post was edited on 2/11/18 at 8:28 am
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:27 am to SlowFlowPro
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black culture since the welfare state was created in the 60s
And why this OBVIOUS FACT is not the major emphasis of ALL well-intentioned people is the major problem in our society today.
Until this 'original sin' is corrected, any structure built on that foundation is doomed to collapse.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:41 am to Spock's Eyebrow
quote:my only issue is that you think its thinly disguised. shite like this...
No one should be surprised the board denizens are defending and promoting high school "science" that fits their thinly disguised predilections even as they routinely reject actual science that doesn't.
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Race and intelligence is settled science anyway
isnt even remotely true, but its at 36 to 1 at the moment.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:43 am to Colonel Flagg
quote:and yet, that is exactly what polling companies do...imagine that
I mean he can’t just pull a handful of students and do IQ test and say that is representative.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:45 am to C
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Tests are racist, right?
The project methods was the get some people on the internet self report race and take an IQ test. Well, let’s talk about data control. The internet is where people lie. Anyone self represents anything they want. So we don’t have verified profiles. We don’t have any indication of testing conditions, best effort, motivation, nothing. Then, what IQ test was given? How was it administered and scored? There are so many breakdowns that the entire project is nothing but a cynical racist flag waiving.
The project would get a maybe a D for the competent use of paper and glue, but that’s about it.
This post was edited on 2/11/18 at 8:46 am
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:54 am to MastrShake
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isnt even remotely true
i mean in terms of data, it's pretty much established
the only real areas of debate are how to neuter the data and/or explain the differences
if you want a truly interesting discussion, it's one asking why Japanese/Korean people and those from Hong Kong are so much more advanced than SE Asian cultures. and then there are random outliers like Singapore
the "Asian" discussion removes race from the discussion (at least from the eyes of Western white people)
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