Started By
Message

re: California school science project that connected race and IQ is pulled after complaints

Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:24 am to
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68250 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:24 am to
First thing I thought of when I saw this thread.

This kid's project was already validated by a Harvard PhD.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423643 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:32 am to
quote:

To test the proposed theory, the student had a variety of unidentified teenagers with different racial backgrounds take an internet IQ test, the outlet said. The project’s final conclusion reportedly found that “the lower average IQs of blacks, Southeast Asians, and nonwhite Hispanics means that they are not as likely as non-Hispanic whites and Northeast Asians to be accepted into a more academically rigorous program such as HISP,” the report said. “Therefore the racial disproportionality of HISP is justified.”

what a ballsy little kid

what fricking teacher accepted this project ?

quote:

so they taboo the project

science is political. it is not objective. uncomfortable results are shunned to avoid uncomfortable discussions

which is sad b/c that means we can't ever figure out what we need to do in order to change things
Posted by Good Times
Hill top in Tn
Member since Nov 2007
23524 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:35 am to
He started a conversation. Good for him.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:36 am to
Here's some truth bombs

Libs want to play the "shitty project that caused problems" card?

A shitty project done by a black kid studying white privilege would NEVER be banned no matter how pissed the white kids were.

A horribly done project by a female studying the pay gap and asserting it is entirely due to sexism would NEVER be banned

A horribly done project done by the child of an illegal immigrant claiming those who want to deport illegals are racists would NEVER be banned

This story is again 100% about banning inquiry in an area deemed off limits by liberals

Otherwise, they proper response is to tell the kid how he could improve the project

But the left doesn't want him to improve it. They want it hidden
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19573 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:37 am to
Any black person who has a sense of humor and isn’t insecure about their own intelligence should find this amusing.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:39 am to
I actually think this project was wildly successful and expertly set up albeit accidental

The kid's project could have been titled

A study into the unequal treatment of ideas based upon who puts forth the ideas

Conclusion to come after the fair. LOL
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423643 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:40 am to
quote:

He started a conversation. Good for him.

i almost went there
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68250 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:41 am to
quote:

But the left doesn't want him to improve it. They want it hidden



That's what happens to heretics who challenge the established orthodoxy.

And I'm LOL at these leftists who are suddenly zealots for the scientific method,
but are willing to accept man made climate change via 'consensus'.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423643 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:45 am to
i don't like using the "race and IQ" example b/c it's icky and i do believe lots of the liberal explanations for the data

a better example is evolutionary biology/psychology that they hate b/c it explains sex differences in humans. much less controversial and much more science/real data because they developed the field before the feminists realized what was going on
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68250 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:48 am to
quote:

evolutionary biology/psychology


BTW thanks for introducing me to Gad Saad. Good stuff.

Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49037 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:50 am to
quote:

"race and IQ" example b/c it's icky


Well that’s a well reasoned and delivered rebuttal if I’ve ever heard one.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423643 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:51 am to






Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68250 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:55 am to
but it's true that the moment they hear it they stop listening and they immediately want to burn you at the stake

you won't be able to even state your case even if it is factual

Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423643 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:58 am to
quote:

Well that’s a well reasoned and delivered rebuttal if I’ve ever heard one.

IQ is much more malleable and able to be developed than those who rely on this argument like to believe

even things like food (our brains need the proper proteins and carbs) matter. poor areas do not have access to proper nutrition pretty much universally. poor areas do not have excess energy/resources to devote to things like reading (Which is a major, and i mean major, aspect of IQ development)

also, there is a bias in our testing (think the reading/language issue but in action)

now, do i blame colonialism for these issues? frick no, because these areas were even worse prior to colonialism

but, do i think that if we transplanted people with 85s on Western IQ tests from BFE in Congo and then immersed them in Western culture/values, in a few generations you'd see a relatively normal distribution of IQs
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423643 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:02 am to
quote:

but it's true that the moment they hear it they stop listening and they immediately want to burn you at the stake

you won't be able to even state your case even if it is factual


well it's not just that. it's "icky" for a varietyof reasons

1. racists, and i mean the real ones, LOVE this argument. when you're arguing on the same side of racists you have to be careful

2. it's kind of fricked up to basically doom a population to the outskirts of society when they don't have any control over the status. yeah it's easy to say that people with 80 IQs are fricked, but it's much different to actually imagine what that means for their lives
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68250 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:04 am to
quote:

i think that if we transplanted people with 85s on Western IQ tests from BFE in Congo and then immersed them in Western culture/values, in a few generations you'd see a relatively normal distribution of IQs


That's Part 2, doing something about it.

We can't get past Part 1, recognizing the factual situation.
Because to speak of it is heresy.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
25273 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:04 am to
quote:

Why is a kid's shitty science project a national news story.

probably because the project was shut down because the results didn't fit the narrative

Maybe you should be asking why is science being ignored for the sake of a political ideology
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:07 am to
Everyone should read The Bell Curve.

FWIW, the left also hates this book.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42855 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:07 am to
Data - truth - logic - facts = ALL RACIST is they don't fall in with the grievance of the day.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22830 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:08 am to
Unless his stats are done correctly it is kind of dumb of the kid to do such an inflamatory project. I doubt his teacher could even do the stats right though.

I mean he can’t just pull a handful of students and do IQ test and say that is representative.
This post was edited on 2/11/18 at 8:10 am
Jump to page
Page 1 2 3 4 5 ... 10
Jump to page
first pageprev pagePage 3 of 10Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitterInstagram