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re: California school science project that connected race and IQ is pulled after complaints
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:54 am to TBoy
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:54 am to TBoy
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The project would get a maybe a D for the competent use of paper and glue, but that’s about it.
Who are you trying to fool low-TBoy?
You wouldnt have given it a D, you'd have banned it. Even if it was done to the above standards, as many studies have been, you'd want it banned.
Also you have made a lot of assumptions. The only description made of the experiment was that the IQ test was on the internet, everything else you've imagined up.
This post was edited on 2/11/18 at 8:55 am
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Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:56 am to ShortyRob
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The kid's project could have been titled A study into the unequal treatment of ideas based upon who puts forth the ideas
And that would have been a more nuanced project with a different method and different conclusions.
But that wasn’t the project. The kid was simply repeating classic Klan racist talking points..
Oh well, I’ll let y’all racists have this one. Maybe y’all can work yourselves into such a lather that you finally establish your white homeland and move away.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:57 am to TBoy
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. Anyone self represents anything they want. So we don’t have verified profiles. We don’t have any indication of testing conditions, best effort, motivation, nothing. Then, what IQ test was given? How was it administered and scored?
these are valid criticisms
the point of OP is that the school didn't do this. there wasn't a rational response. there was an emotional response of censorship
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the entire project is nothing but a cynical racist flag waiving.
and how do you think the actual racists in this world will be able to sell this story? the actions of this school are exactly the behaviors that the actual racists want to show their incredibly small following/population how society is shielding itself from the truth, THEIR truth
from a scientific, educational, and sociological perspective, censorship fails outright
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:58 am to TBoy
So much emotional dribble.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:58 am to TBoy
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The kid was simply repeating classic Klan racist talking points..
what talking points of the Klan establish that a group of non-whites is smarter than white people?
Posted on 2/11/18 at 8:59 am to Strannix
Not that this really the point but this isn’t a “science project”, it’s a glorified survey. There’s a difference, nothing scientific about this. Whichever science teacher running the show should’ve rejected the idea at its inception.
A stats class I’d understand. I realize this is kind of semantics but I keep seeing, “the left doesn’t accept science”. More like, the right doesn’t know what science is, based on this thread......
A stats class I’d understand. I realize this is kind of semantics but I keep seeing, “the left doesn’t accept science”. More like, the right doesn’t know what science is, based on this thread......
Posted on 2/11/18 at 9:01 am to mwade91383
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the right doesn’t know what science is,
They know you either have a penis or you don't.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 9:01 am to mwade91383
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A stats class I’d understand. I realize this is kind of semantics but I keep seeing, “the left doesn’t accept science”. More like, the right doesn’t know what science is, based on this thread......
again, this response by the school would have made your point
they did not do this, however. they censored the project altogether
Posted on 2/11/18 at 9:06 am to TigerBait1971
They also think God has a dick. This argument doesn’t help your point.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 9:08 am to mwade91383
i see that you've come here to have a rational discussion
especially since you skipped all the actual discussion and are just throwing attempted "gotcha" hay-makers
especially since you skipped all the actual discussion and are just throwing attempted "gotcha" hay-makers
This post was edited on 2/11/18 at 9:09 am
Posted on 2/11/18 at 9:09 am to mwade91383
Posted on 2/11/18 at 9:11 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:its only established for people looking for some 10 word explanation. if you want anything more in-depth, its not even remotely established.
i mean in terms of data, it's pretty much established
quote:and now you're pretty much confirming why its not established. for one you need to define what "race" even means?
the "Asian" discussion removes race from the discussion (at least from the eyes of Western white people)
most people here claiming this is settled science are citing social science, not actual biology.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 9:14 am to SlowFlowPro
We’re talking about a science project and I’m being countered w the bathroom issue, what do you expect me to say? And IM the one going for the “gotcha”?
So the issue is the school response, not the project itself?
So the issue is the school response, not the project itself?
This post was edited on 2/11/18 at 9:16 am
Posted on 2/11/18 at 9:18 am to mwade91383
You said the right doesn't recognize science.
Was just nudging you from that high horse.
Was just nudging you from that high horse.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 9:19 am to MastrShake
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its only established for people looking for some 10 word explanation. if you want anything more in-depth, its not even remotely established.
the Bell Curve pretty much establishes the data (again, not the explanation)
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most people here claiming this is settled science are citing social science, not actual biology.
IQ is a concept of social science (psychology)
Posted on 2/11/18 at 9:19 am to mwade91383
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So the issue is the school response, not the project itself?
read the thread.
the vast majority of posts are about the response
Posted on 2/11/18 at 9:23 am to MastrShake
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isnt even remotely true,
Link?
Posted on 2/11/18 at 9:26 am to mwade91383
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They also think God has a dick
He knocked up Mary
jm
Posted on 2/11/18 at 9:29 am to SlowFlowPro
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from a scientific, educational, and sociological perspective, censorship fails outright
Amen x1000, yet this is the tactic that is always elicited from the left.
Censorship, name calling, shaming, attack attack attack.
Don’t want to bake a cake for gays? Bankrupt the business through an authoritarian state.
Don’t like historical monuments? Pull it down like ISIS or the Taliban.
Propose lower taxes? Call it an apocalyptic calamity.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 9:31 am to SlowFlowPro
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you skipped all the actual discussion and are just throwing attempted "gotcha" hay-makers
This goes to your point about the icky part
It immediately closes minds.
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