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California Governments Can Pursue Lawsuits Against Oil Companies over Climate Change

Posted on 4/21/22 at 2:15 pm
Posted by djmed
Member since Aug 2020
4069 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 2:15 pm
sweet. now they can prove once and for all, in legal proceedings, that climate change is real and that it is the fault of oil companies. piece of cake, no?


Federal Appeals Court: California Governments Can Pursue Lawsuits in State Courts Against Oil Companies over Climate Change


A federal appeals court ruled on Tuesday local governments in California can sue oil companies in state courts for allegedly causing climate change and hiding it from the public.

The suit, which dates back to 2017, is seeking damages for more than 30 companies, which the anti-oil San Francisco Chronicle said fossil fuels producers “profit from products contributing to rises in temperatures and sea levels.”


And that means climate change is forcing cities and counties in the state to spend more money on infrastructure, including sea walls.

The plaintiffs in the case are San Mateo, Marin and Santa Cruz counties and the cities of Richmond, Santa Cruz and Imperial Beach in San Diego County.

The Chronicle reported:

The local governments sued in state court under California’s law allowing damages for a “public nuisance,” private actions that harm the public health. The companies want the case to be heard in federal court, where judges can consider state laws but are generally less receptive to those laws than state courts, and are more likely to dismiss such suits.

U.S. District Judge Vince Chhabria of San Francisco and the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled initially that the suits raised no issues of federal law and belonged in state court. The Supreme Court told the appeals court last year to reconsider its ruling after ordering another court to review possible federal issues in a similar suit by the city of Baltimore. On Tuesday, the Ninth Circuit panel said it had considered all applicable federal laws and reached the same conclusion.

The suits contend the oil companies’ “wrongful conduct in producing, selling, marketing fossil fuels contributes to global warming and sea-level rise, which led to property damage and other injuries” to the cities and counties, Judge Sandra Ikuta said in the 3-0 ruling. While the companies produced some of the oil as federal government contractors or on federal land, Ikuta said, they did not carry out government orders or policies, and none of their actions implicated federal laws.

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Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53741 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 2:17 pm to
Lol
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33142 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 2:18 pm to
What specific damages do they have that can be attributed to an oil company?

quote:

wrongful conduct in producing, selling, marketing fossil fuels


If they were so bad, why are the legally allowed in California?
This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 2:19 pm
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 2:19 pm to
They already banned fracking, which is being litigated.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
14230 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

wrongful conduct in producing, selling, marketing fossil fuels contributes to global warming and sea-level rise,



How about we sue everyone who actually used fossil fuels.






Oh, wait…
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42653 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 2:20 pm to
Everyone that drives a car, rides a bus, exhales of farts should be included in the lawsuit. Let’s stop climate change where it starts.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53741 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 2:21 pm to
Did california governments accept royalty payments from said fossil fuels? Did they lease land for said production? Are they using fossil fuels???
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
7254 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 2:27 pm to
Would love to see petroleum dealers ban sales of fuel to California. Similar to some of the gun manufacturers refusing to sell the precincts guns for officers due to their strict regulatory laws.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44445 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 2:29 pm to
Solution is simple: stop all petroleum based products being sold to California. Problem solved!
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
19814 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 2:31 pm to
and California should forfeit all tax dollars collected at the pump!
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
10354 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 2:40 pm to
When you guys call for earthquakes to destroy all of California just be sure to remember that the plaintiffs in this case are from the Bay and SoCal. Central California has nothing to do with this.
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
10415 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 2:44 pm to
Man, that would help out the supply & demand problem for the rest of the country once the oil companies pull out of California due to local government lawsuits. Why sell O&G in California if they're just going to sue you because of it?
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64370 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 2:45 pm to
California should ban all carbon based fuels and products immediately and arrest anyone caught using them.
Posted by Bearcat90
The Land
Member since Nov 2021
2955 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

When you guys call for earthquakes to destroy all of California just be sure to remember that the plaintiffs in this case are from the Bay and SoCal.


I think you are mistaken. You are confusing L.A. with the rest of Southern California. Most of the counties in SoCal are red. They even proposed a new state there.



This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 6:18 pm
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34210 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

“profit from products contributing to rises in temperatures and sea levels.


Lets go check the water level at Pier 35 and see if its gone up in the past 100 years.
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
10354 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 3:29 pm to
Trust me on this one. We joke about there only being three regions: SoCal, CenCal & NorCal because it's easier to describe but the map below is really accurate to how the state and its people divide itself up regionally. Central California is generally considered be the San Joaquin Valley from just south of Bakersfield to just a little south of Sacramento (we don't claim Sacramento even though it fits geographically and is still part of the SJV) and from the coastal mountain range to the Sierra Nevadas.
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 3:30 pm to
So will cattle farmers be next because of cow farts??
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
32107 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 3:32 pm to
Any food product such as dried beans, potatoes, broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, raisins, dried fruits, V8 juice, etc. known to be potent gas generators should be eliminated from human consumption, per penalty of a "gas tax."
Posted by TigerB8
End Communism
Member since Oct 2003
11082 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 3:36 pm to
Time for every oil company that has HQ in cali to join the other companies that have moved out of the state.
Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
3009 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 3:48 pm to
popcorn ready
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