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California bill aims to shorten workweek to 32 hours for large companies
Posted on 4/11/22 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 4/11/22 at 10:04 pm
SACRAMENTO, Calif. — A California bill aims to create a 32-hour workweek.
Assemblywoman Cristina Garcia (D-Bell Gardens) said it’s not about getting back to normal after the pandemic. It’s about getting back to better.
Tyren Hicks, of Sacramento, said he's sold and already ready to sign up.
“That gives us one day to handle our business, get everything done that needs to be done during the week, because I know a lot of professional places, in-store places, are closed on the weekend,” Hicks said.
The doctors' appointments, bank runs and general errands he’d be able to accomplish are not the only selling points for him.
“It would give us a better spiritual mind,” Hicks said.
Assemblywoman Garcia’s bill to shorten the workweek would apply to companies with more than 500 employees.
“This is a starting point for a discussion about how we reimagine the workweek,” she said.
However, her bill does not come without opposition. The California Chamber of Commerce listed the bill as a job killer.
In a letter they sent to lawmakers, it said, “AB 2932’s impact on labor costs in California will discourage job growth in the state and likely reduce opportunities for workers."
Garcia said the great migration and worker shortages should be red flags for employers.
“Employees are making it clear that they want a better quality of life," Garcia said. "They're asking for more flexibility. They're prioritizing mental health, physical health and emotional health out there. I think, in part, it's why you're seeing over 47 million people who have left their workplace employment voluntarily to try to find better opportunities out there."
The California Chamber of Commerce said the costs added for employers would not be sustainable for many businesses.
"This language may be interpreted as requiring the employer to pay the employee the same total compensation that they are presently earning at 40 hours for 32 hours of work," the chamber said in the letter to lawmakers. "By way of example, an employee making $20 per hour presently makes $800 after 40 hours of work. Now, they would be required to make $800 after just 32 hours of work, meaning their hourly rate would become $25 per hour, a 25% increase. If the employer needs the employee to work overtime, the regular rate of pay, becomes $37.50 per hour. A business would be paying $37.50 for every hour worked on the fifth day, an 87.5% increase from $20 per hour."
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Assemblywoman Cristina Garcia (D-Bell Gardens) said it’s not about getting back to normal after the pandemic. It’s about getting back to better.
Tyren Hicks, of Sacramento, said he's sold and already ready to sign up.
“That gives us one day to handle our business, get everything done that needs to be done during the week, because I know a lot of professional places, in-store places, are closed on the weekend,” Hicks said.
The doctors' appointments, bank runs and general errands he’d be able to accomplish are not the only selling points for him.
“It would give us a better spiritual mind,” Hicks said.
Assemblywoman Garcia’s bill to shorten the workweek would apply to companies with more than 500 employees.
“This is a starting point for a discussion about how we reimagine the workweek,” she said.
However, her bill does not come without opposition. The California Chamber of Commerce listed the bill as a job killer.
In a letter they sent to lawmakers, it said, “AB 2932’s impact on labor costs in California will discourage job growth in the state and likely reduce opportunities for workers."
Garcia said the great migration and worker shortages should be red flags for employers.
“Employees are making it clear that they want a better quality of life," Garcia said. "They're asking for more flexibility. They're prioritizing mental health, physical health and emotional health out there. I think, in part, it's why you're seeing over 47 million people who have left their workplace employment voluntarily to try to find better opportunities out there."
The California Chamber of Commerce said the costs added for employers would not be sustainable for many businesses.
"This language may be interpreted as requiring the employer to pay the employee the same total compensation that they are presently earning at 40 hours for 32 hours of work," the chamber said in the letter to lawmakers. "By way of example, an employee making $20 per hour presently makes $800 after 40 hours of work. Now, they would be required to make $800 after just 32 hours of work, meaning their hourly rate would become $25 per hour, a 25% increase. If the employer needs the employee to work overtime, the regular rate of pay, becomes $37.50 per hour. A business would be paying $37.50 for every hour worked on the fifth day, an 87.5% increase from $20 per hour."
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Posted on 4/11/22 at 10:06 pm to aubie101
I’d say I’m for it, except it means a mass exodus of people who will vote for the same things in new places and fisk us all
Posted on 4/11/22 at 10:11 pm to aubie101
it's been posted multiple times. your title is better than the others though.
Posted on 4/11/22 at 10:13 pm to arcalades
Oh, I work in California unfortunately and this would kill business and the rest of country with Californians fleeing.
Posted on 4/11/22 at 10:15 pm to aubie101
If they go to 32 hour work week, that means every industry will go to 32 hour work week. It sounds great, but at the end of the day it wont be.
Posted on 4/11/22 at 10:20 pm to aubie101
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That gives us one day to handle our business, get everything done that needs to be done during the week, because I know a lot of professional places, in-store places, are closed on the weekend,” Hicks said.
The doctors' appointments, bank runs and general errands he’d be able to accomplish are not the only selling points for him.
So what happens when doctors offices, banks, and retail stores eventually move to only work 4 days a week also?
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Employees are making it clear that they want a better quality of life," Garcia said. "They're asking for more flexibility. They're prioritizing mental health, physical health and emotional health out there
Except all those places that help us with quality of life will be closed. Because no one’s working.
Posted on 4/11/22 at 10:32 pm to aubie101
Hell yeah im in. But what these fricking window lickers arent grasping is if you work 32 hours you get paid for 32 hours. You thought your pay was shitty before wait until that 32 hours pay check hits you
Posted on 4/11/22 at 10:32 pm to aubie101
Would be good for the gig economy as these people would be out at those places more
Posted on 4/11/22 at 10:40 pm to jmarto1
I'm ok with a 4 day workweek, when you work 4 10s instead of 5 8s.
Posted on 4/11/22 at 10:47 pm to vodkacop
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Hell yeah im in. But what these fricking window lickers arent grasping is if you work 32 hours you get paid for 32 hours. You thought your pay was shitty before wait until that 32 hours pay check hits you
And for those that still work 40 hours will end up being paid less per hour to compensate for the OT hours they work.
But this is just another push to make America less productive and less competitive.
Posted on 4/11/22 at 10:53 pm to aubie101
I assume salaried people will still be working 40 hours since they aren't eligible for OT, right?
Posted on 4/11/22 at 11:18 pm to aubie101
This is going to backfire so hard. Companies are going to hire outside of CA so they can get fully productive employees.
Posted on 4/11/22 at 11:21 pm to aubie101
Most places try to keep their employees from going over 40 hours a week so they don’t pay overtime.
I think places like Wal-Mart have some employees working only 36 to make sure it’s not that close.
Some places already keep it around 32, so they don’t have to pay full-time benefits. Usually anything over 35 is considered full-time.
A lot places have been going to 4 day work weeks for 4 or 5 years. A few Dr. Offices, Chiropractic offices, vet clinics, and dentist that I have noticed. My dentist office will do cleanings 5 days a week, but no dental procedures on Tuesday or Thursday’s. Small schools in Missouri have been going to 4 day weeks for the past few years.
Most salaried people will still work 60 hrs a week, but to keep the lights on less employees and fewer days a week.
I could see fast food restaurants having shorter lobby hours to save money. I think McDonalds is already starting this.
I think places like Wal-Mart have some employees working only 36 to make sure it’s not that close.
Some places already keep it around 32, so they don’t have to pay full-time benefits. Usually anything over 35 is considered full-time.
A lot places have been going to 4 day work weeks for 4 or 5 years. A few Dr. Offices, Chiropractic offices, vet clinics, and dentist that I have noticed. My dentist office will do cleanings 5 days a week, but no dental procedures on Tuesday or Thursday’s. Small schools in Missouri have been going to 4 day weeks for the past few years.
Most salaried people will still work 60 hrs a week, but to keep the lights on less employees and fewer days a week.
I could see fast food restaurants having shorter lobby hours to save money. I think McDonalds is already starting this.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 5:54 am to NineLineBind
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So what happens when doctors offices, banks, and retail stores eventually move to only work 4 days a week also?
Those places will be required to open 5 days a week for "The Good of Society". I have never understood why Govt Offices are closed on the weekend. They should be open so that working people could get things done on their days off just like govt employees.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 6:06 am to aubie101
Those democrats sure do love to kill jobs.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 6:21 am to aubie101
We need to drop the 40 hour workweek altogether. It’s fricking stupid. Do your damn job. If you get paid hourly work more hours. If you offer health insurance, offer health insurance. If I want to save for retirement, don’t withhold your very generous 3% match based on the hours I work. 40 hours at this point is arbitrary. My first job was an auditor, some of our documented procedures were still “add up all the transactions and agree to the recorded balance.” The client gives you the transactions in excel…I remember being like do I actually need to add these up? They gave them to me in a calculator, they are already added up. Point is, most of our jobs have gotten a ton easier since the 40 hour workweek was established as a ceiling. Poor resource management makes us all stay the same duration each day to smooth this out at the expense of better
Here’s a tangent about Obamacare: it pisses me off to no end when they brag about this utter failure. Healthcare has not only gotten more expensive as a result, it’s just as hard as ever to get healthcare insurance. You have to work for a company, and a decent size one at that to get halfway decent coverage. Self employed people get the screws; the spectrum of how independent you are correlates directly with how good or affordable health insurance is, the most helpless agent great coverage for free while the self employed pay $20k a year and still have $5-10k deductibles.
We all would be better off without these chains to a 9-5. It’s easier than ever to participate in the “gig” economy, plenty of ways to market yourself in a variety of ways that would not only help us diversify our income but to leave work when we are no longer productive and go do something else.
Here’s a tangent about Obamacare: it pisses me off to no end when they brag about this utter failure. Healthcare has not only gotten more expensive as a result, it’s just as hard as ever to get healthcare insurance. You have to work for a company, and a decent size one at that to get halfway decent coverage. Self employed people get the screws; the spectrum of how independent you are correlates directly with how good or affordable health insurance is, the most helpless agent great coverage for free while the self employed pay $20k a year and still have $5-10k deductibles.
We all would be better off without these chains to a 9-5. It’s easier than ever to participate in the “gig” economy, plenty of ways to market yourself in a variety of ways that would not only help us diversify our income but to leave work when we are no longer productive and go do something else.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 7:05 am to CGSC Lobotomy
I currently work 5 10s+. This would increase that lol
Posted on 4/12/22 at 7:14 am to aubie101
Yeah, this sounds great until the market corrects: no raises for existing employees and new hires will be hired at a much lower rate.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 7:19 am to aubie101
Love the argument of another day to get business done….. if everyone had 4 day work week the in essence you have a 3 day weekend with businesses shut closed. They gain nothing and in essence take a 20% pay cut with less hours.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 7:23 am to aubie101
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"This language may be interpreted as requiring the employer to pay the employee the same total compensation that they are presently earning at 40 hours for 32 hours of work," the chamber said in the letter to lawmakers. "By way of example, an employee making $20 per hour presently makes $800 after 40 hours of work. Now, they would be required to make $800 after just 32 hours of work, meaning their hourly rate would become $25 per hour, a 25% increase. If the employer needs the employee to work overtime, the regular rate of pay, becomes $37.50 per hour. A business would be paying $37.50 for every hour worked on the fifth day, an 87.5% increase from $20 per hour."
Employers that stay in state will then whittle down current employees and new hires will get cheaper hourly rate.
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