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re: Calif. releases latest test scores

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Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:07 pm to
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I doubt the assertion above that Norway IQ higher than Greek.



Probably a shitty source but read 'em and weep baw
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:07 pm to
You would have to adequately define race to make that argument.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:07 pm to
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This is some ignorant crap right here


I am reminded of this every time I read one of your posts.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:09 pm to
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You would have to adequately define race to make that argument.



There are, of course, mixed groups at the frontier of any bordered groupings. But don't act like you can't tell, physically, the difference between an East Asian, an Indian, an Arab, a Sub-Saharan African, a Sicilian, and an Icelander. Their genetic heritage would say much the same.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:09 pm to
You should read a book called Sapiens: A brief history of human kind.

Written by someone with a lot more credentials on this subject than anyone on this board.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101390 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:09 pm to
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How many people are in rural appalachia?

Top pro-level athletes are absurdly rare on the statistical curve.


They don't even get many decent college players in any sport, though. I'm saying they are probably worse at producing athletes than many richer white suburban areas -- sort of killing this wealth theory.

Also, a lot of the good black athletes these days are coming from middle and even upper middle class homes. I don't see a whole lot of economic correlation, necessarily.

Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:09 pm to
Otto was Jewish, right? He really slipped up there.
This post was edited on 9/29/17 at 4:10 pm
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46062 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:11 pm to
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Honest question: do you believe that genetics play no part in intelligence and academic success?




He won't be honest. It would also mean that genetics play no part in cystic fibrosis, or height, or any other trait/disease that could be passed on to a child.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112469 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:12 pm to
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You should read a book called Sapiens: A brief history of human kind. Written by someone with a lot more credentials on this subject than anyone on this board.


Tell us what he says.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101390 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:12 pm to
Italy the highest scoring European nation?

Interesting.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:12 pm to
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But don't act like you can't tell, physically, the difference between an East Asian, an Indian, an Arab, a Sub-Saharan African, a Sicilian, and an Icelander.
Ah! but generally (and especially in America and this thread) people are not "grouped" by their indigenous features or by the geographical categories you laid out. They are grouped almost entirely by skin-color. Skin color is not by any means a fool-proof scientific method of categorizing DNA sharing.
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
14368 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:12 pm to
We need MOAR money


And those test are.......













....you guessed it...

























...racist.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:13 pm to
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Tell us what he says.
It's a long one and I don't want to just quote one passage to suit my argument...that is intellectually dishonest. I might start a thread on it in the book board when I finish it if you are interested in discussing books with someone hard-coded to have less intellectual aptitude than you.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:14 pm to
All our grandkids will work for an Asian person
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:14 pm to
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Italy the highest scoring European nation?



I'd like to see that broken down by region. There is a HUGE disparity between the North and South of Italy. It really shouldn't be all that surprising, the Florentines, Milanese, Venetians, etc., basically started the Renaissance, and Naples to Sicily is still kind of backwater - but that may mostly be due to all kinds of invasions.
This post was edited on 9/29/17 at 4:14 pm
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55448 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:14 pm to
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Ah! but generally (and especially in America and this thread) people are not "grouped" by their indigenous features or by the geographical categories you laid out. They are grouped almost entirely by skin-color. Skin color is not by any means a fool-proof scientific method of categorizing DNA sharing.




I don't disagree. Which is why I'm pointing out the objective differences rather than our cultural norms.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101390 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:15 pm to
Yeah, I'm mostly the genetic backwater.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:15 pm to
Fair enough...it also depends on the sport. Basketball is dominated by black folks because historically black folks have been poor in this country and all you need to play basketball is a ball, a milk crate and a street.

Football on the other hand requires a field and equipment. Far more diverse. Hockey requires equipment and an ice rink...skews the other way.

Golf requires money...skews the other way.

Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:16 pm to
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Which is why I'm pointing out the objective differences rather than our cultural norms.
If that is the case then "race" is no longer the appropriate categorization for assertions on intellectual superiority eh?
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45754 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:16 pm to
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False. Genetic IQ is a real thing
I have a niece and nephew that are dumb as dirt. They each are one-quarter asian. I guess it just doesn't dilute very well.
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