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re: Budget comparisons between St George & other Louisiana cities

Posted on 1/9/14 at 12:06 am to
Posted by Shepherd
Member since Nov 2009
3090 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 12:06 am to
You are correct- my son has more damn sense than you and your incoherent ramblings that you have been spewing all over this thread
Posted by russinbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2004
141 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 12:15 am to
Touched upon that brpd union bitch arse didn't I. Don't worry Dab's will wipe your tears lil boy
Posted by Shepherd
Member since Nov 2009
3090 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 12:16 am to
WTF?
Posted by Huck Finn
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2009
2618 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 6:33 am to
What's been your great contribution thus far, shepherd?
Posted by Huck Finn
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2009
2618 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 6:42 am to
I don't understand your assertion that the signatures are slow going. They are coming along pretty dang quickly, when you factor in the dirty city politicians attempting to strong arm anyone who facilitates a petition drive.
You are mistaken if you think St George is slowing down.
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9794 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 7:32 am to
Yep, and after reading in the Advocate what occurred at the Metro Council meeting last night, I'm tempted to attend that little 125.00 fund raiser.

Don't like bullies, and those fools, like Delgado, Marcelle, and Collins-Lewis are just pushing more and more people to side with the City of SG.
Posted by tdg
Member since Sep 2009
223 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 8:26 am to
I am exactly the same way. I don't typically spend my time and money getting involved in matters such as this and was more than happy to let it play out without any involvement on my part. But the slimy actions of Delgado et al motivated me to go sign the petition and now have motivated me to donate to the cause.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135069 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 8:29 am to
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the dirty city politicians attempting to strong arm anyone who facilitates a petition drive.
Link? I have not heard nor read anything about anyone circulating the petition who has been 'strong armed.' If you have evidence of it, I'd like to read about it.

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I don't understand your assertion that the signatures are slow going.
I'm just comparing the petition effort by SG with the recall petition of Mayor DeeDee of Port Allen.

In the same amount of time that the SG petition has been circulating, the Port Allen petition had the required 25% of signatures, been submitted for certification and certified.

As for as anecdotal evidence, I know several families who live in the proposed SG area and none of them will sign the petition. All of them are very well educated and believe the division of the parish into two halves will hurt economic development efforts for our entire area.

Any time more politicians are given the opportunity to extort bribes.......er.......I mean, fees, just so a business can operate, it hurts the economic development.

One of the persons I know in SG who has refused to sign works at LSU in a research capacity and she is definitely leary of the negative affect a parish split will have on LSU. I did not ask her to go into detail about how it would hurt LSU but I plan on doing so the next time I see her.
This post was edited on 1/9/14 at 8:29 am
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135069 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 8:30 am to
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russinbr
You keep asking me about pension funding. You are replying to the wrong person. I have not mentioned BRPD or BRFD pension funding.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135069 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 8:35 am to
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But the slimy actions of Delgado et al motivated me to go sign the petition and now have motivated me to donate to the cause.
Well, that is certainly a well thought out, mature approach to this long-term issue.

Frankly many of the SG posters on here are starting to sound like the child who the big kids won't let play quarterback in their sandlot football game so he threatens to take his football and go home.

I've yet to see one single post which supports their whole "we pay more taxes than anyone else and we don't get services for it" meme.

I am patiently waiting for some to offer documented evidence for that assertion.
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9794 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 8:35 am to
I would be interested in hearing how the City of SG would hurt LSU.

We have a lot of LSU connected people in my neighbourhood.

If anything, a new School System would save their kids a lot of bus time(since most of them go to Magnet Schools) or a lot of money for those who go to Private Schools.

Which to me would be a selling point for recruiting Profs and management/admin types.

And they've already made the choice to live out here.

On no, could it be the "R" word, that's already been used?
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15796 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 8:37 am to
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I'm tempted to attend that little 125.00 fund raiser.


My wife, my self, and several friends are going.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135069 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 8:39 am to
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If anything, a new School System would save their kids a lot of bus time(since most of them go to Magnet Schools).
Do you think they believe it's a positive for their kids that they will no longer be allowed to attend those magnet schools, including Baton Rouge Magnet High School? I don't.
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And they've already made the choice to live out here.
One lady interviewed by a local TV station said after one of the organizational meetings a couple of months ago that her family will move out of SG and into BR if that was the only way her kids could continue to attend the magnet school they are in.
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9794 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 8:40 am to
Maybe people think they'll get a better return on their taxes.

Maybe people don't like being bullied, or their complaints/concerns being ignored.

Maybe these people can afford to pay for what they want.

What's the old saying, about never going to battle with someone who buys ink by the barrel?

Same thing could apply here.

Just sayin'

Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 8:43 am to
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I've yet to see one single post which supports their whole "we pay more taxes than anyone else and we don't get services for it" meme.


They can't. It's pure propaganda and perception

The truth is that Kip Holden has steered more money into St George for infrastructure and improvements than everywhere else.That includes accounting for the fact that BR proper is more costly to provide police services to and that downtown got a fancy pants stage.

The school system is a whole different ball game.
This post was edited on 1/9/14 at 8:49 am
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15796 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 8:44 am to
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Do you think they believe it's a positive for their kids that they will no longer be allowed to attend those magnet schools, including Baton Rouge Magnet High School? I don't.
You make it sound like a huge majority of the kids in the St George area that are in the EBR school system attends a magnet school. If I had to guess, I would say that it's a very small percentage.
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One lady interviewed by a local TV station said after one of the organizational meetings a couple of months ago that her family will move out of SG and into BR if that was the only way her kids could continue to attend the magnet school they are in.


I think that's wonderful, she can carry her arse.
This post was edited on 1/9/14 at 8:46 am
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135069 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 8:45 am to
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Maybe people think they'll get a better return on their taxes.
I hope they would considering how much more in taxes they will be paying.

quote:

Maybe people don't like being bullied, or their complaints/concerns being ignored
The city parish council yesterday shot down both attempts to stymie SG by a small group on the council. How is that bullying? How is that being ignored? SG got the support of the city parish council YESTERDAY! SG people are behaving like spoiled brats who won't take YES for an answer.

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What's the old saying, about never going to battle with someone who buys ink by the barrel?

Same thing could apply here.
SG buys ink by the barrel? Huh? And the rest of the saying is "or paper by the ton."

Just sayin'.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57986 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 8:48 am to
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SG got the support of the city parish council YESTERDAY!


Link please.
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15796 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 8:51 am to
I gotta give it to you LSURussian, you were busy all day in this thread from sun up to sun down. You must be exhausted opposing this new city.

edit: makes me wonder what you do for a living.
This post was edited on 1/9/14 at 8:52 am
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135069 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 8:51 am to
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You make it sound like a huge majority of the kids in the St George area that are in the EBR school system attends a magnet schoo
No, I'm not. I was responding directly to another poster who claimed it would benefit people in SG if their kids don't have to ride the bus to a magnet school. It was a very specific response to a very specific point made by another poster.

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If I had to guess, I would say that it's a very small percentage.
Don't guess. Find some facts and let us know.

There are 1,500 students (round number) at BRMHS. The SG area comprises approximately 25% of the population of EBR Parish. If only 15% of the students at BRMHS come from the SG area, that means 225 students who live in SG are attending BRMHS. That is not an insignificant number. And that is just BRMHS. There are other magnet schools, both elementary and middle schools, which now are being attended by SG children.

How many T-buildings will be needed at the existing SG area schools just to absorb those students?
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