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re: Budget comparisons between St George & other Louisiana cities
Posted on 1/8/14 at 11:07 pm to SpidermanTUba
Posted on 1/8/14 at 11:07 pm to SpidermanTUba
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Sounds like the solution is to redraw district lines - not start a new city.
What's easier? I'm going with another 9000 signatures. good luck with the metros.
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Posted on 1/8/14 at 11:07 pm to russinbr
quote:So much ignorance, so little time. And it's "too" not "to."
For to long now the "Old Guard" of Baton Rouge has stolen from others to pay their way.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 11:08 pm to SpidermanTUba
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Its going to be ruined because St. George residents are going to weasel out of their liabilities and stick BR with the bill for those folks retirements.
why would St George be responsible for BR city programs? don't parish entities serve that area?
Posted on 1/8/14 at 11:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
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why would St George be responsible for BR city programs?
Because the People decided to make the Parish and the City the same legal entity, the debts of one are the debts of the other.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 11:11 pm to SpidermanTUba
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Its going to be ruined because St. George residents are going to weasel out of their liabilities and stick BR with the bill for those folks retirements.
...though probably this will be overturned after a massive lawsuit that costs St. George untold amounts.
Baton Rouge will be responsible for Baton Rouge's legacy costs. That's not St. George's problem.
St. George organizers have been pretty clear in their meetings (you can see videos of them on their facebook page) that they intend to take care of what legacy costs they should be responsible for in taking over services.
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Because the People decided to make the Parish and the City the same legal entity, the debts of one are the debts of the other.
This thread was going in a good, informative direction until Spidey started posting again.
We are all now dumber for having read his posts.
This post was edited on 1/8/14 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 1/8/14 at 11:13 pm to SpidermanTUba
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the debts of one are the debts of the other.
that makes no sense and i doubt that holds up, especially since they didn't service the area
and that would be teh fault of the city for relying so much on areas it didn't servce/control when spending/promising money it couldn't back up
Posted on 1/8/14 at 11:14 pm to Huck Finn
It's taken them 6 months to get half the signatures they need. By the time they get the other half so many of the signers will have moved out of the area, a challenge of the petition will have it thrown out.
It is revealing that it is taking so long just to get 25% of the voters to sign the petition. Not everyone who signs the petition will vote for incorporation.
There is no groundswell of support for incorporation. Baton Rouge needs to open up to the residents of that area and not do what Delgado is doing and make the division worse.
It is revealing that it is taking so long just to get 25% of the voters to sign the petition. Not everyone who signs the petition will vote for incorporation.
There is no groundswell of support for incorporation. Baton Rouge needs to open up to the residents of that area and not do what Delgado is doing and make the division worse.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 11:14 pm to dewster
No relation.
I posted only about the council members who made nominations to the St. George Fire department Commission board.
I find it pretty amazing the Delgado wants to prevent the St. George residents from providing their children with a safe and effective learning environment when his own parents rejected the shitty offerings of the EBRPSB when providing for his own education.
I posted only about the council members who made nominations to the St. George Fire department Commission board.
I find it pretty amazing the Delgado wants to prevent the St. George residents from providing their children with a safe and effective learning environment when his own parents rejected the shitty offerings of the EBRPSB when providing for his own education.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 11:14 pm to dewster
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Baton Rouge will be responsible for Baton Rouge's legacy costs. That's not St. George's problem.
St. George is within East Baton Rouge Parish, and East Baton Rouge Parish and the City of Baton Rouge are the same government. The debts of one are debts of the other.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 11:15 pm to dewster
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The organizers claim that they will take responsibility for their share of legacy costs.
My community is going through something similar now. Legacy costs were negotiated out of court and I'd hope that would occur here.
That depends on what they think their "share" is. It sounds like they are leaving with 80% of the value given that they have a casino and a ton of land. Any idea of what the total debt or annual debt service is?
Posted on 1/8/14 at 11:16 pm to dewster
quote:Do what I do......ignore him.
This thread was going in a good, informative direction until Spidey started posting again
Posted on 1/8/14 at 11:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
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that makes no sense and i doubt that holds up, especially since they didn't service the area
It doesn't matter. The liabilities of the consolidated government are the liabilities of the entire Parish - these are liabilities entered into with the consent of the entire Parish as a whole - hence they are owed by the entire Parish.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 11:18 pm to LSURussian
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It's taken them 6 months to get half the signatures they need. By the time they get the other half so many of the signers will have moved out of the area, a challenge of the petition will have it thrown out.
There's no official deadline.....the governor can request a special election when he has the signatures. I haven't seen an update on their numbers the past few weeks, but I just assumed it was for the holidays. Their facebook page said a while back that they were taking a break from collecting signatures until the first of the year.
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Baton Rouge needs to open up to the residents of that area and not do what Delgado is doing and make the division worse.
I agree with this. Tell that to the school board as well.
IMO, Delgado is doing irreparable damage now (along with the idiots trying to bring this residency requirement to a vote). St. George isn't even on the ballot yet.
This post was edited on 1/8/14 at 11:22 pm
Posted on 1/8/14 at 11:18 pm to SpidermanTUba
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Its going to be ruined because St. George residents are going to weasel out of their liabilities and stick BR with the bill for those folks retirements.
When has BRPD or BRFD ever provided the first bit of service to the residents of St. George. NEVER. frick'em and let'em eat shite for supper if they counted on stealing from those they never served to provide for their futures.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 11:20 pm to russinbr
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When has BRPD or BRFD ever provided the first bit of service to the residents of St. George. NEVER.
No one in St. George works in Baton Rouge?
Really?
This post was edited on 1/8/14 at 11:20 pm
Posted on 1/8/14 at 11:20 pm to SpidermanTUba
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The liabilities of the consolidated government are the liabilities of the entire Parish - these are liabilities entered into with the consent of the entire Parish as a whole - hence they are owed by the entire Parish.
then how are they going to "weasel out" of paying them?
Posted on 1/8/14 at 11:21 pm to mmcgrath
The budget for EBR Parish is available online. Someone posted a link to it earlier in this thread.
All of the existing debt obligations, including retirement and health insurance obligations and bond issues for sewer and road construction, are listed.
It goes into great detail...over 500 pages long. More detail than the ONE page proposed budget the SG backers published.
All of the existing debt obligations, including retirement and health insurance obligations and bond issues for sewer and road construction, are listed.
It goes into great detail...over 500 pages long. More detail than the ONE page proposed budget the SG backers published.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 11:21 pm to SpidermanTUba
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No one in St. George works in Baton Rouge?
is that your standard?
so based on that, lake charles is responsible for the retirement of westlake police b/c people who live in LC work in westlake
Posted on 1/8/14 at 11:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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then how are they going to "weasel out" of paying them?
By NOT paying them.
Lord almighty you're difficult sometimes.Posted on 1/8/14 at 11:21 pm to SpidermanTUba
Not a very smart man are you tuba?
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