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re: Breonna Taylor: it was not a no knock warrant
Posted on 9/23/20 at 9:07 pm to Dawgfanman
Posted on 9/23/20 at 9:07 pm to Dawgfanman
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Posted on 9/23/20 at 9:08 pm to the808bass
quote:I am reading the warrant on the next page. They have lots of evidence tying her to the activities of Jamarcus Glover.
They said they did. That’s two different things.
Sad.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 9:16 pm to Wolfhound45
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They have lots of evidence tying her to the activities of Jamarcus Glover.
From the things that I read, it was more smoke than fire. He used her address for a couple of bills and a bank statement? Her car was seen at the trap house. He picked up packages at her place.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 9:21 pm to the808bass
Look at the jail conversations. She was moving his money and holding it for him at her apartment. She was a key part of his operation.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 9:21 pm to the808bass
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From the things that I read, it was more smoke than fire. He used her address for a couple of bills and a bank statement? Her car was seen at the trap house. He picked up packages at her place.
How many people use your address to send their mail and packages to?
Posted on 9/23/20 at 9:36 pm to baldona
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How many people use your address to send their mail and packages to?
Really lower-income people in general are very transient and often times use various addresses for all sorts of different reasons. One for a school district, one for a phone bill, another old address at the baby mommas house.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 9:37 pm to MMauler
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They DID have a no-knock warrant, but they knocked anyway
They did initially but it was changed to "knock and announce" which they did announce as was confirmed with eye witness accounts from the neighbors.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 9:37 pm to Wolfhound45
quote:
Look at the jail conversations. She was moving his money and holding it for him at her apartment. She was a key part of his operation.
1) those are after the shooting, the warrant couldn’t have relied on them
2) they are entirely dependent on the dealer’s truthfulness. No money or drugs were found at Taylor’s house.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 9:38 pm to Toddy
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which they did announce as was confirmed with eye witness accounts from the neighbors.
Account
Single
Everyone else heard the knock and no announce
Posted on 9/23/20 at 9:38 pm to the808bass
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1) those are after the shooting, the warrant couldn’t have relied on them
2) they are entirely dependent on the dealer’s truthfulness. No money or drugs were found at Taylor’s house.
What do these things have to do with the guy in her apartment firing on the police first
Posted on 9/23/20 at 9:38 pm to HailToTheChiz
Nothing. Follow the conversation or don’t.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 9:45 pm to the808bass
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Follow the conversation or don’t.
I'm not
Posted on 9/23/20 at 9:50 pm to the808bass
quote:The intent of the warrant (of which you are well aware) was to develop further evidence on Jamarcus Glover. He was their main target. They discuss retrieving $8,000 from her apartment in the jail conversations. I assume they were successful. Hence why the police found nothing.
1) those are after the shooting, the warrant couldn’t have relied on them
2) they are entirely dependent on the dealer’s truthfulness. No money or drugs were found at Taylor’s house.
They had probable cause based upon surveillance of her car visiting his residence multiple times and their telephone conversations. Also his use of her car. Her own boyfriend says in his statement they announced but he was afraid it was Jamarcus and did not open (also confirmed by the jail conversations).
I do not fault the boyfriend. Of all al of the people, I think he was the most innocent (that 911 call was devastating). More and more I am seeing Breonna in a more negative light. She was not as innocent as she is portrayed to be.
This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 9:53 pm
Posted on 9/24/20 at 10:37 am to AggieHank86
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The fact that they CHOSE not to EXERCISE that authority does NOT change the nature of the warrant.
But, it changes the nature of the entire f*cking discussion.
Since they didn't exercise the no-knock feature of the warrant, the fact that it was a no-knock warrant is COMPLETELY F*CKING IRRELEVANT and shouldn't be brought up to advance a FRAUDULENT political agenda.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 10:41 am to MMauler
Eh. The issue with no-knock warrants is larger than no-knock warrants. Do we need to kick in doors at 12:30 AM based on cars driving boyfriends to a trap house?
That’s a serious question.
If you say “yes,” that’s fine. But then the next question is was the warrant based on faulty reasoning or did they not look hard enough for what they were there for?
That’s a serious question.
If you say “yes,” that’s fine. But then the next question is was the warrant based on faulty reasoning or did they not look hard enough for what they were there for?
Posted on 9/24/20 at 10:43 am to Wolfhound45
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They had probable cause based upon surveillance of her car visiting his residence multiple times and their telephone conversations.
To be clear, when you say phone conversations you’re not referring to content. Just that they talked.
And I’m guessing he was still hitting it. So she was banging a drug dealer. And they talked on the phone and visited each other’s residences.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 10:51 am to bfniii
quote:First, let's look at the supporting affidavit:
Breonna Taylor: it was not a no knock warrant
quote:All false as to Breonna Taylor and her residence.
Affiant is requesting a No-Knock entry to the premises due to the nature of how these drug traffickers operate. These drug traffickers have a history of attempting to destroy evidence, have cameras on the location that compromise Detectives once an approach to the dwelling is made, and a have history of fleeing from law enforcement.
As to the "no-knock" nature of the warrant, the warrant incorporates the above-quoted request for a "no-knock entry" by attaching the affidavit and incorporating it by reference, as follow:
quote:Warrant & Affidavit
there is probable and reasonable cause for the issuance of this Search Warrant as set out in the affidavit attached hereto and made a part hereof as if fully set forth herein
Posted on 9/24/20 at 10:59 am to the808bass
quote:I never cease to be amazed when people unquestioningly swallow the story of people with every reason to lie, even in the face of conflicting evidence from people with no "skin in the game."quote:They said they did. That’s two different things.
But they did (announce).
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