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re: Breitbart just dropped a bomb. 85 page Memo from Google!

Posted on 10/10/18 at 12:30 am to
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 10/10/18 at 12:30 am to
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don't need Daddy Google to tell me what's good and bad, and perform the modern equivalent of book burning


I'm just asking that you take fictional works with more grains of salt. How about them apples?
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 10/10/18 at 12:31 am to
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If McDonalds can control what content people see and don't, and effectively remove things from the menu (as they admit in the memo they can and do) they should not be policing, have standards, have positions to justify, or sign posting things. Unless they are legally required to. But it's not a legal issue. It's their own definition of delicious food, or whatever leaning they privately decide. They are entirely deciding what is "delicious" and "disgusting". Some small group of people in an office on San Jose. Do you not see the problem?



don't like how google optimizes their products? use a different one.
This post was edited on 10/10/18 at 12:32 am
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/10/18 at 12:32 am to
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please tell me how it's possible to operate a useful search engine without censoring content
You have search terms. Sites that have match search terms are displayed in the results, sorted by popularity. The end. That is how all the dozens or hundreds of search engines used to work until Google forced them out of business
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 try to stop fake news from getting legs
WHO DECIDES WHAT IS FAKE NEWS
This post was edited on 10/10/18 at 12:32 am
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/10/18 at 12:34 am to
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don't like how google optimizes their products? use a different one.
McDonald's owns their products. They sell the things that they produce.

Google does not own its search results.


I mean really. You fricking idiot.
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 10/10/18 at 12:34 am to
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You have search terms. Sites that have match search terms are displayed in the results, sorted by popularity. The end. That is how all the dozens or hundreds of search engines used to work until Google forced them out of business
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the point of a search engine is not to deliver you the most popular information.

for example, "donald trump paid to piss on russian hookers.com" shouldn't show up as a result on the first page just because some random kid on his phone decided to botnet and make it so.
This post was edited on 10/10/18 at 12:36 am
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/10/18 at 12:35 am to
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I'm just asking that you take fictional works with more grains of salt
No, you're not. You're asking that no one be able to take them at all.
Posted by bmy
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/10/18 at 12:35 am to
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McDonald's owns their products. They sell the things that they produce.

Google does not own its search results.


I mean really. You fricking idiot.


google doesn't own its search results?
This post was edited on 10/10/18 at 12:36 am
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 10/10/18 at 12:36 am to
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No, you're not. You're asking that no one be able to take them at all.


How so? By showing you how this entire thing is unsubstantiated and more than likely made up by Breitbart?
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 12:36 am to
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for example, "donald trump paid to piss on russian hookers.com" shouldn't show up as a result on the first peage just because some random kid on his phone decided to botnet and make it so. 
Googlebomb preventions have nothing to do with their censorship. They don't mention that at all. They give you the reasons. That's not one of them
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 12:37 am to
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google doesn't own its search results?
Correct. Do you think the phonebook owns your house?
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 10/10/18 at 12:39 am to
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google doesn't own its search results?



no.

this isnt hard
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39414 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 12:39 am to
You are rapidly becoming one of the most annoying little shits on this board. Google is censoring conservative content and promoting liberal content. They are admitting to it, and all of your bullshite parsing doesn't make it anything other than what it is.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 12:40 am to
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Google is censoring conservative content and promoting liberal content


And yet the only "proof" is from conservative fake news sources. Seems like it's not working so well after all.
This post was edited on 10/10/18 at 2:06 am
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 12:43 am to
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You are rapidly becoming one of the most annoying little shits on this board. Google is censoring conservative content and promoting liberal content. They are admitting to it, and all of your bullshite parsing doesn't make it anything other than what it is.


if what you said was true i would agree with you. it's not though. unless you think racism and misogyny are exclusively conservative traits (actually.. )?
This post was edited on 10/10/18 at 12:47 am
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/10/18 at 12:46 am to
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Correct. Do you think the phonebook owns your house?


Of course not. But they own the phonebook and choose how and what information is displayed.

This post was edited on 10/10/18 at 12:47 am
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 12:48 am to
This is one of the most moronic displays in PoliBoard history. And that's really saying something. It is blowing my mind how dumb y'all are
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39414 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 12:49 am to
Their proof is actual excerpts from an internal Google briefing and video of Google employees talking about it. That's stronger provenance than most news stories. Its not like any of the "approved" media outlets you prefer are going to cover this story, which is sort of the crux of the problem isn't it?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39414 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 12:51 am to
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Of course not. But they own the phonebook and choose how and what information is displayed.


Yep. And they are choosing to discriminate based on political ideology.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117681 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 12:54 am to
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This is one of the most moronic displays in PoliBoard history. And that's really saying something. It is blowing my mind how dumb y'all are



It’s actually pretty impressive. These guys manage to come up with this stuff and stick to it day after day.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 12:54 am to
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Their proof is actual excerpts from an internal Google briefing


Alleged briefing. Only Breitbart has it, supposedly. A notorious fake news source.

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Its not like any of the "approved" media outlets you prefer are going to cover this story, which is sort of the crux of the problem isn't it?


No. The premise of your argument is not based in reality. You are just basically saying that you will base your entire reality of what is fact on something you have zero proof of. Not to mention that if it was so egregious and all of your information was being so censored that you wouldn't even be able to read those things.

Sorry but there are way too many people that are misinformed, like you, for me to believe that Google has done it any effective job at censoring
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