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re: Breitbart just dropped a bomb. 85 page Memo from Google!

Posted on 10/9/18 at 8:46 pm to
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 10/9/18 at 8:46 pm to
The Google monopoly HAS to be broken up. I wrote that here five years ago. Conservatives and Libertarians who repeat the mindless cliche “ well start your own google” have no grasp of how Google operates and how HISTORICALLY powerful they are to the most important technology of our age. They literally decide who wins and who loses ( which companies) crush competition within every segment and MORONICALLY have chosen to be the propaganda arm of one of the two major political parties . People really need to understand how encompassing their influence is and the extent of their de facto censorship. It’s scary stuff.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
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Posted on 10/9/18 at 8:48 pm to
Crazy. Oh, free speech is utopian but I suppose Google knows what’s best for us. Bastages deserve the gallows.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 10/9/18 at 8:48 pm to
Anyone who has used Google the last 10+ years should be able to notice the censorship and sanitization that has gone on
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 10/9/18 at 8:51 pm to
It's amazing how much more difficult it is to get a simple answer to a simple question.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 10/9/18 at 8:52 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/27/23 at 2:36 am
Posted by genro
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Posted on 10/9/18 at 8:55 pm to
quote:


It's amazing how much more difficult it is to get a simple answer to a simple question.
It depends on what the answer is
Posted by bhtigerfan
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Posted on 10/9/18 at 9:00 pm to
Fox, that's on Drudge's Twitter.

Needs to be posted on Google's. Let their followers see it.
Posted by Seldom Seen
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Posted on 10/9/18 at 9:03 pm to
Anti-Trust When?
Posted by Shiftyplus1
Regret nothing that made you smile
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Posted on 10/9/18 at 9:05 pm to
So much for right wing conspiracy theorists being wackos, huh? Can't wait for this shite to be brought before congress and the monopoly busters get to work.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 10/9/18 at 9:06 pm to
Can somebody quote the parts I'm supposed to be outraged about?
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/9/18 at 9:12 pm to
quote:

Can somebody quote the parts I'm supposed to be outraged about?
quote:

P2 – The briefing states that “users are asking if the openness of the internet should be celebrated after all” and that “free speech has become a social, economic, and political weapon.” 
P11 – The briefing identifies Breitbart News as the media publication most interested in the topic of free speech. 
P12 – The briefing says the early free-speech ideals of the internet were “utopian.” 
P14 – The briefing admits that Google, along with Twitter and Facebook, now “control the majority of online conversations.” 
P15 – Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act is linked to Google’s position as a platform for free expression. Elsewhere in the document (p68), Google and other platforms’ move towards moderation and censorship is associated with the role of “publisher” – which would not be subject to Section 230’s legal protections. 
PP19-21 – The briefing identifies several factors that allegedly eroded faith in free speech. The election of Donald Trump and alleged Russian involvement is identified as one such factor. The rise of the populist Alternative fur Deutschland (Alternative for Germany) party in Germany – which the briefing falsely smears as “alt-right” – is another. 
PP26-34 – The briefing explains how “users behaving badly” undermines free speech on the internet and allows “crummy politicians to expand their influence.” The briefing bemoans that “racists, misogynists, and oppressors” are allowed a voice alongside “revolutionaries, whistleblowers, and campaigners.” It warns that users are “keener to transgress moral norms” behind the protection of anonymity. 
P37 – The briefing acknowledges that China – for which Google has developed a censored search engine – has the worst track record on internet freedom. 
P45 – After warning about the rise of online hate speech, the briefing approvingly cites Sarah Jeong, infamous for her hate speech against white males (Google is currently facing a lawsuit alleging it discriminates against white males, among other categories). 
P45 – The briefing bemoans the fact that the internet has until recently been a level playing field, warning that “rational debate is damaged when authoritative voices and ‘have a go’ commentators receive equal weighting.” 
P49 – The document accuses President Trump of spreading the “conspiracy theory” that Google autocomplete suggestions unfairly favored Hillary Clinton in 2016. (Trump’s suspicions were actually correct – independent research has shown that Google did favor Clinton in 2016). 
P53 – Free speech platform Gab is identified as a major destination for users who are dissatisfied with censorship on other platforms. 
P54 – After warning about “harassment” earlier in the document, the briefing approvingly describes a 27,000-strong left-wing social media campaign as a “digital flash mob” engaged in “friendly counter-commenting.” 
P57 – The document juxtaposes a factoid about Russian election interference with a picture of Donald Trump. 
P63 – The briefing admits that when Google, GoDaddy and CloudFlare simultaneously withdrew service from website The Daily Stormer, they were “effectively booting it off the internet,” a point also made by the Electronic Frontier Foundation and the FCC in their subsequent warnings about online censorship. 
P66-68 – The briefing argues that Google, Facebook, YouTube and Twitter are caught between two incompatible positions, the “unmediated marketplace of ideas” vs. “well-ordered spaces for safety and civility.” The first is described as a product of the “American tradition” which “prioritizes free speech for democracy, not civility.” The second is described as a product of the “European tradition,” which “favors dignity over liberty and civility over freedom.” The briefing claims that all tech platforms are now moving toward the European tradition. 
P70 – The briefing sums up the reasons for big tech’s “shift towards censorship,” including the need to respond to regulatory demands and “expand globally,” to “monetize content through its organization,” and to “protect advertisers from controversial content, [and] increase revenues.” 
P74-76 – The briefing warns that concerns about censorship from major tech platforms have spread beyond the right-wing media into the mainstream.

Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 10/9/18 at 9:15 pm to
quote:

free speech has become a social, economic, and political weapon.”


Isn’t this the literal definition of a fascist/Nazi? All while the left scream and point and call other people the same?
Posted by Jumbo_Gumbo
Denham Springs
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Posted on 10/9/18 at 9:16 pm to
Thank goodness for conservative radio programs.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 10/9/18 at 9:22 pm to
Did anyone but me read the actual Memo instead of Breitbart's "synopsis"?
Posted by CamdenTiger
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Posted on 10/9/18 at 9:23 pm to
What a thread, did censorship of thought occur in a thread about censorship of thought, oh boy!!!
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 10/9/18 at 9:25 pm to
quote:

did censorship of thought occur in a thread about censorship of thought,


It's like rain on your wedding day....
Posted by Jjdoc
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Posted on 10/9/18 at 9:26 pm to
Tasting his own approved medicine??
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 9:37 pm to
I went through the slideshow. It was basically

- internet used to be free and open
- but that vision failed
- now users are being bad
- governments are being bad
- so we tech companies having started censoring
- but people are noticing
- so we need to be nicer about it
Posted by oliveandblue
Member since Nov 2014
1669 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 9:38 pm to
The internet is very libertarian. This should go over quite well.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 10/9/18 at 9:42 pm to
quote:

- so we tech companies having started censoring
- but people are noticing
- so we need to be nicer about it


LOL. It literally says "The answer is not find the right amount of censorship and stick to it".
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