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re: BREAKING: Trump hints US could 'pull out of NATO' over Greenland
Posted on 1/16/26 at 3:25 pm to therick711
Posted on 1/16/26 at 3:25 pm to therick711
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The Senate exercises advise and consent on nominations and the president can then unilaterally fire cabinet heads, recall ambassadors, fire us attorneys. It would actually fit much better in the framework for it to be as everyone since Washington assumed.
Choosing who is the US Attorney for the Northern District of Iowa and committing the United States to a mutual defense obligation with most of Europe are not the same thing.
One is relatively meaningless while the other obligation oscillating back and forth every four years is not in the legitimate interest of the US.
This post was edited on 1/16/26 at 3:27 pm
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Posted on 1/16/26 at 3:27 pm to Indefatigable
And yet they are treated the same. Two things don't have to be the same to be treated the same. Congress can pass federal criminal law on wildlife export and authorize money for conflicts abroad. But but but those aren't the same thing! So what? The mechanism is the same.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 3:30 pm to SpecialK_88
Oh okay, now that seals it that NATO/EU doesn’t need our presence and more importantly money. Thanks for actually making my point
Posted on 1/16/26 at 3:31 pm to Indefatigable
Then we should have bases in countries that aren't importing the 3rd world, fining our tech companies, chilling free speech, and pulling us into their proxy wars.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 3:34 pm to AaronDeTiger
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Then we should have bases in countries that aren't importing the 3rd world, fining our tech companies, chilling free speech, and pulling us into their proxy wars.
I don’t care about other countries’ domestic policy, and we have zero bases in Israel.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 3:34 pm to j1897
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Isreal will release the epstein video tapes if we pull out of NATO.
Stuck on stupid I see. Israel is not a member of NATO.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 3:35 pm to therick711
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And yet they are treated the same. Two things don't have to be the same to be treated the same. Congress can pass federal criminal law on wildlife export and authorize money for conflicts abroad. But but but those aren't the same thing! So what? The mechanism is the same.
We just agree to disagree. We’ll find out when or if it happens. SCOTUS treats “like” things differently as a matter of course
Posted on 1/16/26 at 3:37 pm to Indefatigable
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We aren’t there to protect Europe.
What specific interests are we there to protect?
Posted on 1/16/26 at 3:37 pm to Indefatigable
Just as long as we are clear that you were completely wrong about both the state of the law and practice in this area since the founding. Your disagreement on how it may turn out is a long way away from your original thesis. I admire when someone can admit they were wrong. 
Posted on 1/16/26 at 3:40 pm to Indefatigable
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I don’t care about other countries’ domestic policy, and we have zero bases in Israel.
The first (2017) officially acknowledged permanent U.S. military site on Israeli soil, housing dozens of U.S. personnel (primarily from the U.S. Army's air and missile defense units) and operating under U.S. command for missile defense cooperation is located at Mashabim Air base in Israel.
he Dimona Radar Facility (also known as Site 512 or the AN/TPY-2 radar site on Mount Keren near Dimona). This is a U.S.-operated early-warning radar installation that tracks ballistic missiles (primarily focused on threats from Iran). It has been active for years, is owned and run by the U.S. military
Posted on 1/16/26 at 3:40 pm to LSURussian
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Is President Trump starting to lose his mind??
Yes, long ago...
Some of the posters here are so unaware and ill-informed. They have no sense of global reality. They seem to swallow internet, bot-fueled nonsense and propaganda voraciously.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 3:40 pm to tide06
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What specific interests are we there to protect?
Our own.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 3:40 pm to LetsGoBrandon
Idiotic
Posted on 1/16/26 at 3:42 pm to MrLSU
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The first (2017) officially acknowledged permanent U.S. military site on Israeli soil, housing dozens of U.S. personnel (primarily from the U.S. Army's air and missile defense units) and operating under U.S. command for missile defense cooperation is located at Mashabim Air base in Israel. he Dimona Radar Facility (also known as Site 512 or the AN/TPY-2 radar site on Mount Keren near Dimona). This is a U.S.-operated early-warning radar installation that tracks ballistic missiles (primarily focused on threats from Iran). It has been active for years, is owned and run by the U.S. military
Oh, got it. We have a dozen guys working a radar installation. Is that presence supposed to be inducing us to engage in Israel’s proxy wars?
Note the thread is talking about Europe, which had no part to play in any of our proxy wars over the past two decades.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 3:48 pm to Indefatigable
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Our own.
Which you continue to fail to be able to articulate with any specificity.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 3:50 pm to Indefatigable
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Europe, which had no part to play in any of our proxy wars over the past two decades.
Europe has no role in the war in Ukraine?
Posted on 1/16/26 at 3:50 pm to tide06
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Which you continue to fail to be able to articulate with any specificity.
You didn’t read the thread
Posted on 1/16/26 at 3:50 pm to tide06
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Europe has no role in the war in Ukraine?
The war we aren’t fighting in?
Posted on 1/16/26 at 3:52 pm to Hawgleg
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Greenland is going to be the prise to stay in NATO. Been the plan all along.
Trump is the master at creating leverage to get what he wants.
He materializes leverage out of thin air. Fascinating to watch.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 3:55 pm to LetsGoBrandon
Be still my beating heart.
The EU in its outrage has sent a total 15 troops to Greenland: Doubling the force protection of the 14 they have before. Naval assets could be on the way they’re saying!
Trump is either going to 5D them into doing something useful for once and protecting Greenland or we will just buy it eventually
The EU in its outrage has sent a total 15 troops to Greenland: Doubling the force protection of the 14 they have before. Naval assets could be on the way they’re saying!
Trump is either going to 5D them into doing something useful for once and protecting Greenland or we will just buy it eventually
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