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re: BREAKING: F.C.C. Officially Repeals Net Neutrality Rules

Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:45 pm to
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:45 pm to
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If it was a true free market, I wouldn't have to. But apparently people love monopolies.


Why do you need to use the internet? And if it's only occasionally, drive down to your local library and use the public computers.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
20155 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:45 pm to
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This is where I'm at. I'm all for the free market, but this isn't an actual free market.


If you don't have a free market where you live that is a LOCAL government problem. The feds have nothing to do with that.

Many localities have no such issues which would be impossible if this was something caused by the feds.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:45 pm to
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add me to the group who has no clue what this actually means and how it affects me personally.


You'll benefit as a consumer.
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:46 pm to
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Because that is fear mongering based on something that never happened before NN was passed.
So Comcast getting sued for throttling before NN never happened?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21463 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:47 pm to
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Because that is fear mongering based on something that never happened before NN was passed.


But its still true? Is it inaccurate?
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
24834 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:47 pm to
What I find hilarious is people bitch about CNN and MSNBC being fake liberal news. But they just gave their parent companies the ability to censor or charge extra to visit websites those companies don't want you to visit.

This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 12:48 pm
Posted by Dirtman16
Madison, AL
Member since Nov 2012
410 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:47 pm to
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Somebody explain this to me like I was 5 please


Wow! It's a real dumpster fire in here. I will try to give you a non-biased definition of net neutrality.

Put simply, NN is the practice that required internet service providers (ISPs) to treat all network traffic equally, regardless of who is providing it or requesting it.

Enforcing NN in the United States required reclassification of internet service to Title II under some very old telecommunications law (passed in the 30's I think). This was done by the previous FCC back in 2015 when Tom Wheeler was the chairman.

Today's vote repealed that decision and put internet service back into the Title I classification. In theory, this allows ISPs to prioritize, throttle, or charge additional fees based on the content type or where in comes from. For example, Comcast could slow down Netflix or other video services to make them less appealing than their own content delivery systems.

Whether ISPs will actually do this or not depends primarily on whether they have real competition in the marketplace. In a lot of places, there is concern that there is no real competition for internet service, either because more than one option isn't available, or the other options have restrictive speeds or data caps.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:47 pm to
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So Comcast getting sued for throttling before NN never happened?



wait.

so before NN existed, COmcast throttled and was sued?

and then they lost?

holy shite...what did we need NN for again?
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
34757 posts
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Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
20155 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:48 pm to
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but if they didnt create this absurd fear, then NN wouldnt be necessary as implemented as government regulations!


It is amazing that people were duped into thinking Google, Facebook, Twitter, Amazon, etc. which are completely against free speech & free thought....people actually thought those companies were pushing for federal regulations that would "help consumers."

Amazing.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
37541 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:48 pm to
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So Comcast getting sued for throttling before NN never happened?



So without NN we were able to catch something that we are told NN is the only way to keep from happening?

Also, wasn't that the Netflix case? Wasn't it found that Netflix was actually largely responsible for it? Or was that a different case?
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 12:53 pm
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
67999 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:48 pm to
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holy shite...what did we need NN for again?




So that you don't have to wait years to gather evidence and then sue a tech giant to get them to stop fricking the internet.
Posted by lagallifrey
Member since Dec 2013
2010 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:49 pm to
Excellent news for freedom, for consumers, for access. It’s great that those unconstitutional regulations are gone.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:49 pm to
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It is amazing that people were duped into thinking Google, Facebook, Twitter, Amazon, etc. which are completely against free speech & free thought....people actually thought those companies were pushing for federal regulations that would "help consumers."

Amazing.



they just want the right to censor.

this is all about who gets to control the flow of information.

like Google and twitter and FB are some virtues of freedom.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133665 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:49 pm to
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How is this even remotely good for consumers?


The big internet providers are not receiving government protection from outside competition now.
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
14945 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:50 pm to
muh Netflix bingeing
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
23361 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:50 pm to
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This will prompt a rallying cry from the younger generations


Not when we throttle their Social Media to 56K and they cannot organize.

Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:50 pm to
Based Ajit Pai's response: LINK
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31006 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:50 pm to
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How is this even remotely good for consumers?

its not.
anyone who says otherwise is misinformed
Posted by LoneMDG
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2009
2774 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:50 pm to
To not have to waste time and money suing when companies do things like this.

But hey, congratulations Lawyers, I'm sure there's going to be lots of new business after this.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 12:51 pm
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