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re: BREAKING: F.C.C. Officially Repeals Net Neutrality Rules
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:46 pm to TigerMyth36
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:46 pm to TigerMyth36
WTF are you talking about? You're trying to communicate your understanding of NN yet you don't know the difference between bandwidth and data caps? Speed IS bandwidth, or data volume/time. Paying for a particular bandwidth is the standard sales model in the industry.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:24 pm to Parmen
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BREAKING: F.C.C. Officially Repeals Net Neutrality Rules
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:10 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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actually the opposite
No, actually the opposite of your opposite.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:10 pm to lagallifrey
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No, actually the opposite of your opposite.
yea sooo much freedom
Posted on 12/14/17 at 6:17 pm to StraightCashHomey21
More fantasy scenarios used to scare us into giving the government more control.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 7:57 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Dear God. Such stupid shite. The federal government is currently blocking a merger between Big media companies because of the opposite of this logic
Posted on 12/15/17 at 7:27 am to lagallifrey
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More fantasy scenarios used to scare us into giving the government more control
Still, no one has offered a single actual reason this is good for the consumer.
The truth is it's not in any way good for the consumer. The scenarios people are bringing up is not fear mongering. This is what ISPs have paid millions in lobbying to be able to do. Saying that they didn't do that in the past (before the net neutrality rules were in place) does not mean that they will not do it in the future.
This is not a red or blue issue, this is an American issue. The withdrawal of these rules creates an internet where only the giants can survive, because they can control who sees what and at what price. If you think this is anything less, you are misinformed.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 9:23 am to blowmeauburn
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Dear God. Such stupid shite. The federal government is currently blocking a merger between Big media companies because of the opposite of this logic
That was my observation too.
The more I avoid Reddit talking points and stick with only text of the relevant documents, the more it appears to me that repealing Net Neutrality simply shifted the responsibility for internet oversight from the Federal Communication Commission to the Federal Trade Commission, where it was in 2015. The notion of the internet being a wild west environment where everyone is free to do as they please is a largely a myth. Though the FCC is giving up most of its online authority, it will still be sharing portions of oversight with the FTC, mostly in the area of enforcing transparency rules for internet service providers. ISPs will still have to publicly disclose information about their network management, performance and terms of agreement.
Just as the FTC intervenes in matters that affect the economy with the stated objective of "protecting" (yes, of course this is debatable) consumers from deceptive, unfair, or illegal practices, they will serve a similar role with internet oversight.
The Reddit fear mongering has also caused these government officials to realize that when information is not provided to the public, the Joe Reddits of the world will simply come up with their own narrative. So there will also be a public education campaign to "teach people about provider practices." This of course will simply invite more Reddit attention with claims they are lying to help Big Data to profit from these lies, but there's not much that can be done to satiate fear mongers.
The other reality check of this shift in responsibility is that the FTC likely lacks the subject matter expertise found in the private sector. A similar comparison can be found not too long ago in the financial markets when mortgage backed securities grew in popularity as a way to bundle and hide bad loans. Government regulators tasked with protecting consumers failed to match the private sector knowledge and savvy, so private sector transactors were able to do things that led to market failure unbeknownst to the government regulators. I think a similar thing will happen with internet oversight, but without the massive economic impact seen in the financial sector. Customers will be nuisanced occasionally, but the customers will prevail long term.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 9:29 am to NYNolaguy1
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Also imagine if this was the case for an election, with comcast allowing traffic only to HRC and her friends in the media... is it that hard to imagine comcast only allowing traffic to its MSM subsidiaries?
Imagine this, imagine that.
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