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BREAKING: details of bipart senate imm proposal per @LindseyGrahamSC.

Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:48 am
Posted by Redleg Guy
Member since Nov 2012
2536 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:48 am
- DACA and border security only
- DACA path for citizenship for 1.8 million
- at least $25b for border security
- Family migration limited for DACA parents only - not allowed to gain status via their kids.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:50 am to
Not as shitty as it could have been
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76519 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:51 am to
Pretty solid
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2975 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:51 am to
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at least $25b for border security


Wall? Please be the wall.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76519 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:51 am to
Yeah, the wall
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98982 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:52 am to
Will Trump sign if he doesn't get all he wanted?
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:52 am to
How does any proposal not eliminate the idiotic lottery?

And the $25 billion likely isn’t committed, kind of like what Reagan fell for
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76519 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:53 am to
There's most of what he wanted.

Art of the deal.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73578 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:53 am to
They need to sneak e verify in there
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:53 am to
Is the 25B only “authorized” or is it “allocated”? Big difference


Chain migration?
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
14865 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:53 am to
Chain and lottery have to go.
Posted by Redleg Guy
Member since Nov 2012
2536 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:54 am to
Citizenship is the big win for Democrats
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89517 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:54 am to
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Family migration limited for DACA parents only - not allowed to gain status via their kids.


That seems an internally inconsistent statement.

"We break the law to bring the 'kids' (still up to like 26, right?) here - and then we get to stay, benefitting from our own illegality."

But, no wall, right?

Posted by AlterDWI
Durango, Colorado
Member since Nov 2012
2156 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:55 am to
So the GOP had the Dems backed into a corner & get nothing out of it?
Posted by TigerIT
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2013
438 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:55 am to
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Chain migration?


That's racist!!
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:56 am to
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- DACA and border security only



((((Border security))))

Meaningless, and probably deliberately so. This is going to end up as DACA plus nothing.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51272 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:59 am to
quote:

So the GOP had the Dems backed into a corner & get nothing out of it?



If the OP is accurate, it looks like a decent compromise bill.
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20828 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:00 pm to
Not bad. But that $25b must be guarenteed for the WALL
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19045 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:00 pm to
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at least $25b for border security


Can someone help me out here? Explain to me what happens if 25b is agreed to and actually is approved. Is 25b put into an account and that money is spent on border security or is it just an agreement to spend 25b over x number of years? I guess what I’m getting at is that you can agree to spend that amount, but what ensures the money is appropriated and actually available to spend next year or two years from now? An agreement to spend seems pretty worthless if you aren’t given the money.
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:01 pm to
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So the GOP had the Dems backed into a corner & get nothing out of it?
$25b for a wall isn't nothing, not by a long shot. But it's also probably the only concession Trump is going to get from Dems. They aren't feeling any pressure to allow cuts to legal immigration because the immigrant organizations themselves are telling them to walk away if Trump and Mitch refuse. So if this bill doesn't fly Dems will let it ride and go into the midterms daring them to start deporting photogenic college graduates with citizen kids instead of convicted criminals with face tattoos.
This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 12:03 pm
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