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re: Boy who suffered up to 100 seizures a day has none in 300 days after taking Cannabis Oil
Posted on 9/8/17 at 12:39 pm to OMLandshark
Posted on 9/8/17 at 12:39 pm to OMLandshark
But muh schedule one
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 12:46 pm to NC_Tigah
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As has been posted numerous times, that line of logic would have to apply to alcohol as well. Yet, it doesn't
But alcohol isn't used in medicine for little kids, only adults use alcohol as medication
As a society, if we deny kids their seizure medicine just so some degenerates can get high, we have some very backwards priorities
Posted on 9/8/17 at 12:50 pm to el Gaucho
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Alcohol has been used to treat a variety of diseases since the Stone Age and doctors say it's good for your heart
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A few potheads on the internet
Yes because there is no history of medicinal Cannabis use going back thousands of years
Posted on 9/8/17 at 1:22 pm to m2pro
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I rarely find myself disagreeing with your angles. And I don't necessarily here either BUT... I think having a super strong opinion about this one way or another is hasty. It isn't as simple as a harmless plant and pot smokers getting legal weed and tax dollars. A gigantic amount of stuff changes when you decriminalize and/or legalize something like this, but particularly legalizing it.
Let it continue in Oregon/Colorado/California. Let the long-term-everything happen there first. Give it another 10-20 years and rehash (pun intended) the results and make a fully educated course of action.
I am 100% for legalization - be it medical or recreational, but I would prefer medical. With that being said, I think this is the most well-thought out argument thus far. The contingencies of just legalizing are huge. Tons of police will lose their jobs (which isnt a bad thing, it would take a load off the budget to be used in other areas). Oversight/Compliance would have to be thoroughly thought out and planned - which would not be cheap or quick.
I think there are legitimate arguments for legalization and the benefits of THC, and more so, CBD. The war on drugs is a complete failure and a money pit, and I can even slightly buy into the conspiracy that pharma holds it back. With that being said, it is not as easy as people think, and it does need to be looked into more before a roll out occurs. Treaties will have to be altered in order for it to happen federally, and I dont see that happening in the near future. I do think a good, realistic, start would be to begin downgrading the schedule of marijuana - Hell, FENTANYL is scheduled lower than MJ. That is unbelievable
Posted on 9/8/17 at 1:33 pm to OMLandshark
I know people who make the oil on their outside grill and then mix it with coconut oil. It's illegal, but it helps with cancer more than any pharmaceutical drug you can get for nausea.
The reason it is illegal is because the pharmaceutical companies would lose money, so they lobby against it.
THC being illegal in most states has nothing to do with people getting high. It is about big business making money and the money they spend on lobbying against it.
How many times have you ever heard of a person high on pot trying to get in fights and beating on people? I hear or read about drunk people doing it all the time.
I wouldn't want to work with someone that is high or drunk. I wouldn't want to ride with someone that is high or drunk. I would rather be around someone socially that is high than I would be around someone that is really drunk.
The reason it is illegal is because the pharmaceutical companies would lose money, so they lobby against it.
THC being illegal in most states has nothing to do with people getting high. It is about big business making money and the money they spend on lobbying against it.
How many times have you ever heard of a person high on pot trying to get in fights and beating on people? I hear or read about drunk people doing it all the time.
I wouldn't want to work with someone that is high or drunk. I wouldn't want to ride with someone that is high or drunk. I would rather be around someone socially that is high than I would be around someone that is really drunk.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 1:51 pm to MizzouBS
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THC being illegal in most states has nothing to do with people getting high. It is about big business making money and the money they spend on lobbying against it.
That is 100% correct, and the reason it was outlawed to begin with, if people would like to research the politics and lobbying at the time it was banned.
We also have another issue that is holding legalization back, the DEA and other enforcement agencies would lose BILLIONS of $ in funding - so they lobby to keep the status quo as well now.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 1:57 pm to OMLandshark
Don't you love how stoners use sick people to justify them getting easier access to their favorite buzz?
Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:10 pm to tommy2tone1999
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Don't you love how stoners use sick people to justify them getting easier access to their favorite buzz?
I do love it, and it's working. And it benefits all parties involved, get used to it!
Posted on 9/8/17 at 3:34 pm to Aristo
quote:Fine with me. Can you come up with a field sobriety test and something like a roadside BAC analyzer that can detect impaired drivers that use substances other than alcohol? That's where what goes into your body can infringe upon my liberties and the liberties of my family and other people I care about. Just drag anyone you suspect of being impaired and do a blood or urine screen?
All drugs should be legal, but as with alcohol you shouldn't be able to drive or infringe upon someone else's liberties.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 4:22 pm to Lg
quote:the same exact way we do it with alcohol?
how will one reconcile the liability of pot being legal and not allowing a person to work while impaired.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 4:31 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Except when someone smokes weed they will test positive for months, meaning they are impaired for a very long time. Alcohol goes away in a couple hours
Posted on 9/8/17 at 4:34 pm to MizzouBS
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How many times have you ever heard of a person high on pot trying to get in fights and beating on people? I hear or read about drunk people doing it all the time.
Then how come literally every person in the crime briefs for property crime, theft, or murder has possession of marijuana or paraphernalia as well?
Posted on 9/8/17 at 4:36 pm to el Gaucho
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Except when someone smokes weed they will test positive for months, meaning they are impaired for a very long time.
Oh my.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 4:40 pm to el Gaucho
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Then how come literally every person in the crime briefs for property crime, theft, or murder has possession of marijuana or paraphernalia as well?
They also have clothing and toothpaste in their possession, you make a great point.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 4:41 pm to Diamondawg
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Fine with me. Can you come up with a field sobriety test and something like a roadside BAC analyzer
That technology exists in multiple forms. Some countries/counties are using it already.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 4:48 pm to philter
Why not pull their blood like they do for alcohol?
Posted on 9/8/17 at 4:48 pm to Diamondawg
They are already doing it now. The field sobriety tests also look for signs of drug use.
ETA: The people who are going to get behind the wheel of a car high are already doing it now anyway.
ETA: The people who are going to get behind the wheel of a car high are already doing it now anyway.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 9/8/17 at 4:55 pm to el Gaucho
quote:False.
But alcohol isn't used in medicine for little kids, only adults use alcohol as medication
At one time alcohol was used to prevent immature labor.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:13 pm to el Gaucho
Compare that to how many people have alcohol.
If both were legal they would not be in the crime report.
Potheads will be potheads
Alcoholics will be alcoholics
Which will kill you
How many potheads in rehab for just marijuana?
How many alcoholics in rehab for just alcohol?
I have never heard of someone dying of overdose do to just using marijuana. I have heard of hundreds if not thousands of people dying do to just drinking alcohol.
If both were legal they would not be in the crime report.
Potheads will be potheads
Alcoholics will be alcoholics
Which will kill you
How many potheads in rehab for just marijuana?
How many alcoholics in rehab for just alcohol?
I have never heard of someone dying of overdose do to just using marijuana. I have heard of hundreds if not thousands of people dying do to just drinking alcohol.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:46 pm to MizzouBS
yes but alcohol isn't a drug, it occurs naturally
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