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re: Boots on the ground look likely but not an invasion

Posted on 3/7/26 at 8:07 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 8:07 am to
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I don’t give a shite how hypocritical other people are.

I do, specifically in this area.

And they do, clearly, b/c of the Gordian Knot they've created to support this "war" (they won't even admit it's a war)

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What do you think Iran should look like when we’re done

You're doing the false choice/framing thing, here.

Your presumption is that I think this war was wise, and then asking me how I think this unwise war should be resolved.

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The Quds force is the 2nd most active special forces unit in the world, maybe the most active. Without Iranian funding and training the groups will not have easy access to high tech missiles and drones.

Islamic terrorism always finds a way.

Have you not witnessed the whack a mole in the region since 1979? Specifically 2003 through ISIS?
Posted by BOHICAMAN
Member since Feb 2026
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 8:11 am to
God damn dude, are you capable of having your own position or opinion?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476637 posts
Posted on 3/7/26 at 8:13 am to
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BOHICAMAN
God damn dude, are you capable of having your own position or opinion?


I already did that

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Outside of that paradigm, your question is kind of a false premise that requires the presumption that we have to do something re: Iran.
Posted by CenlaLowell
Alexandria, la
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 8:14 am to
Troops on the ground = invasion period
Posted by BOHICAMAN
Member since Feb 2026
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 8:14 am to
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Outside of that paradigm, your question is kind of a false premise that requires the presumption that we have to do something re: Iran.


So your opinion is that we shouldn’t have done anything about Iran. Got it.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68366 posts
Posted on 3/7/26 at 8:17 am to
Yeah, I know everyone is rah rah that we are trying to checkmate China and BRICS. But, at some point, if we cut off China's access to energy -- they are going to kick over the game board. It's existential at some point.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476637 posts
Posted on 3/7/26 at 8:47 am to
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o your opinion is that we shouldn’t have done anything about Iran. Got it.

Not a war.
Posted by BOHICAMAN
Member since Feb 2026
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 8:49 am to
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Not a war.

IMO there’s no other way to accomplish regime change.
Posted by mikeytig
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 8:50 am to
I’m all for blowing up Iran if we have to -hell turn it into a parking lot. But I hope we don’t send our boys over there. That would be inviting a disaster. Let those people kill each other and we can blow it up again if we have to.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 9:03 am to
I CERTAINLY don't believe the risk of engaging in regime change is worth the likely cost
Posted by BOHICAMAN
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 9:11 am to
I do
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 9:12 am to
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And the irony here is there is no objective/goal stated by the admin. Why don't you save those words for them?
No. The irony is they've stated a goal. You just don't believe it is attainable without a Bush-style invasion. That's your prerogative. But the "OMG!-OMG!-OMG! OMB is gonna deploy thousands of US ground troops to fight hand-to-hand with the IRGC in urban combat" hand wringing is ridiculous.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 9:15 am to
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Disastrous decision



It’s not a decision. It’s a bunch of people looking for content to get clicks and likes. It’s silly.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476637 posts
Posted on 3/7/26 at 9:18 am to
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The irony is they've stated a goal.

They've stated multiple. Which one are you referring to?

Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 9:35 am to
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And the irony here is there is no objective/goal stated by the admin
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They've stated multiple.
See, there's the issue. You said "there is no objective/goal stated by the admin." Then you swing 180° contradicting yourself, saying "they've stated multiple" goals. Then you ask me which of the "multiple" goals I'm referring to. I'm not your mindreader or psychologist, SFP. I have no idea as to which of the supposed "multiple" goals (none of which apparently existed an hour ago) has you so wound up.

Perhaps I'm wrong, but I've simply not heard any proposal for thousands of US soldiers engaging in ground combat in Iran. My presumption is any goal would be withdrawn if it is shown to require deployment of major US ground forces.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476637 posts
Posted on 3/7/26 at 9:38 am to
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See, there's the issue. You said "there is no objective/goal stated by the admin." Then you swing 180° contradicting yourself,

Naw.

If they argue there are multiple goals, there is no singular goal. My point stands.

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Then you ask me which of the "multiple" goals I'm referring to.

It's an important question.

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I'm not your mindreader or psychologist, SFP. I

I asked you to describe your perception of the "goal" you referenced. I'm the one refusing to read your mind (and allow you to pivot later)

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I have no idea as to which of the supposed "multiple" goals (none of which apparently existed an hour ago) has you so wound up.

That's irrelevant. I'm asking you which goal you were referring to here

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No. The irony is they've stated a goal.


Those are your words. Not mine.

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My presumption is any goal would be withdrawn if it is shown to require deployment of major US ground forces.

Then we're likely going to end up right back in the same place.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 9:41 am to
Privately?

To nbc?


It’s kind of crazy seeing how much you guys want war you will believe anything on twitter.


This post was edited on 3/7/26 at 9:42 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 9:42 am to
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If they argue there are multiple goals, there is no singular goal. My point stands.


Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 9:51 am to
Slowcantmultitaskpro!

We had multiple goals in WW2

LOL
Posted by Masterag
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Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 9:53 am to
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Boots on the ground look likely but not an invasion





boots on the ground is literally an invasion. it's like the very definition of invasion.

trump could piss on your face and tell you its raining and you'd believe him
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