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re: Bombshell audio reveals top Republican official tried to BRIBE Kari Lake to not run

Posted on 1/24/24 at 6:39 pm to
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22765 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 6:39 pm to
quote:

TigerAxeOK

I appreciate your response. I wasn't kidding when I suggested a discussion of what the "establishment" is would be helpful, and your explanation is a good example why. Your definition of "establishment" is very different from mine. I'll argue my point, but to be clear - I'm not saying I am necessarily right and you are necessarily wrong, but what's interesting is if you see me post about the establishment - for example, how Trump is establishment AF - given your definition, you'd think I'm crazy or trolling and I'll think you're dim/soft for not agreeing with me because we have different ideas of what the establishment is.

I have not considered the media as part of the establishment. In my view, they're more an enabling cabal of assholes on the periphery of the establishment, butthey don't make their living directly off of fedgov.

My definition of the establishment is it's the massive group of people, agencies, companies and other types of organizations that suck on the teat of fedgov. This includes government itself (the deep state), the MIC, contractors, businesses, NGOs, industries/organizations, lobbyists, think tanks, etc. etc.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63090 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 6:42 pm to
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You understand the dude she was talking to is MAGA AF, right?


Nobody MAGA AF delivers a bribe on behalf of GOPe.
Posted by tigerterrace
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Sep 2016
3475 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 6:48 pm to
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Odds are she will lose a 3 way race against Sinema and Gallego.


I have np idea what this Gallego person looks like but I might want to watch.
This post was edited on 1/24/24 at 6:49 pm
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22765 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 6:53 pm to
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Nobody MAGA AF delivers a bribe on behalf of GOPe.

Except the one that did.

Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167573 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 6:53 pm to
I am not shocked that this happened. I am shocked that Kari didn't have a price. Everyone has a price. Don't get me wrong people are good and do the right thing- but she turned down a blank check.
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
14479 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 6:54 pm to
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I have np idea what this Gallego person looks like but I might want to watch.


Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63090 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 6:56 pm to
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How was Kari retarded?

JFC Gumbo, she lost an election to an unimpressive liberal frickwad in a red state. That wasn't bad luck.


So, the quality of a candidate is based on how the electorate receives said candidate?

I would have voted for Lake without hesitation if I lived in AZ.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167573 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 6:57 pm to
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63090 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 7:06 pm to
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Except the one that did


He’s not what he pretends to be.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22765 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 7:06 pm to
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So, the quality of a candidate is based on how the electorate receives said candidate?

When you're a conservative and you lose a statewide race in a red state for an office that has been in Republican hands the last 14 years and 26 of the last 32 years, you are a shitty candidate.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 7:07 pm to
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All in the business of grifting off losing elections

You’re a special kind of stupid to have the audacity to say this about the person who has unwavering convictions & turned the money down.

The real grifters sold us out.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22765 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 7:08 pm to
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He’s not what he pretends to be.

Sure he is. He's MAGA, bro.

He says he's anti-establishment. Just like you.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 7:08 pm to
quote:

When you're a conservative and you lose a statewide race in a red state for an office that has been in Republican hands the last 14 years and 26 of the last 32 years, you are a shitty candidate.

She didn’t lose.

But you already know that.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63090 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 7:13 pm to
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Sure he is. He's MAGA, bro.


You don’t understand MAGA.

Having a “powerful group out east” deciding who gets to run for office is the opposite of what MAGA is about.

MAGA believes the people should decide such things.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167573 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 7:13 pm to
Or Kari figured out that even with a zillion dollars how can you enjoy it in a shithole country?

Anyone that hasn't figured out how evil they are yet think Rove, Turtle and the Bush's are good guys and think they are good ole boys. They are democrats. They are all past democrats they are all thugs. How many posers do they have to show before the jig is up? Their diplomacy is as fake as Dubya being on the wagon.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22765 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 7:14 pm to
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She didn’t lose.

But you already know that.

Lose or cheated out of it, reality is she's not the governor of Arizona. If she was, we'd be seeing AZ national guardsman at our border just like we're seeing in Texas.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22765 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 7:17 pm to
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You don’t understand MAGA.

Having a “powerful group out east” deciding who gets to run for office is the opposite of what MAGA is about.

I understand MAGA just fine. MAGA is steeped in the establishment and you're naive if you think you know how MAGA operates behind the scene.

To be clear, I'm using "MAGA" as the political machine piloted by Trump.

You may be using "MAGA" as some super awesome ideals. If that's the case, MAGA is perfect in every way.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 7:18 pm to
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You’re a special kind of stupid to have the audacity to say this about the person who has unwavering convictions & turned the money down.


Before she was all in on MAGA, she was all in on Obama. I'm sure she will be all in on the next big thing.
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
14479 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 7:18 pm to
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You’re a special kind of stupid to have the audacity to say this about the person who has unwavering convictions & turned the money down.



Stupid is being fooled by the likes of Kari Lake.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 7:19 pm to
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Stupid is being fooled by the likes of Kari Lake.


She acts for a living. She's pretty good at it, evidently.
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