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re: BMW "not budging" on Mexican plant

Posted on 1/16/17 at 5:10 pm to
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
28633 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 5:10 pm to
quote:

BMW already builds over 300,000 cars per year in South Carolina

And what happens to those jobs in S. Car. when the Mex. plant goes online?

What happened to the Ind. jobs when the Carrier plant was to open?


Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
13444 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 5:11 pm to
quote:

I have no sympathy for autoworkers in SC who are not members of the UAW. They chose to not be in a union and they will get screwed over


Oh boy....
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
56313 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 5:12 pm to
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quote: I have no sympathy for autoworkers in SC who are not members of the UAW. They chose to not be in a union and so they chose to not get screwed over
Posted by LSUKNUT
Naples, Florida
Member since Jun 2007
2320 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 5:13 pm to
The BMW X3 has always been the only U.S. built BMW. It's a German company so DJT really has no leverage here. It's also the worst built BMW you can buy so who cares.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8099 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 6:01 pm to
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I'll check in from time to time. I'm eagerly awaiting Notre Dame guy to come back and explain how Mexico is going to put a hurt on the US ag business. That one should be good reading.


A country that lost nearly 2 million ag jobs because of NAFTA isn't going to turn around and carve that back? That caused riots and political turmoil (and an eventual flood of ag workers to the U.S. and many others turning to illegal products to stay afloat)? Our third-largest food export market?

Prices would be higher in the U.S. because labor isn't going to be as cheap. Dollar still strong. Exports can fall elsewhere in that case.

What are we going to do? Stack more corn subsidies and continue to flood their market?

On the plus side, all those destitute farmers might not be growing op and weed to make a buck any longer.
This post was edited on 1/16/17 at 6:05 pm
Posted by hesterhamma
Member since Oct 2013
679 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 6:57 pm to
frick the Democratic loving Unions! Only lazy pieces of shite utilize unions!
Posted by DevilDogTiger
RTWFY!
Member since Nov 2007
6397 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 7:00 pm to
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If he continues this after Friday he will be out of the presidency real quick.

My god!
Posted by guy4lsu
shreveport
Member since Aug 2004
2933 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 7:01 pm to
Someone help me out on this. I've heard that you need congress to pass a tax on imports. How is trump going to get this done with all of the big money lobbyist in congress?
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
20895 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 7:04 pm to
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frick BMW...waste of money!


Posted by ihometiger
Member since Dec 2013
12475 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 7:06 pm to
BMW wants to try and sell to to the poors a fake BNW Kraut machine
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 7:22 pm to
quote:

BMWs have kinda cheap looking interiors.
Audi and Infinity are so much nicer.







Knowing this little about car options.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10358 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 7:24 pm to
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What are we going to do? Stack more corn subsidies and continue to flood their market?


This would be one of the minor things we could, and probably would do.

Do you really think US food prices would be that much higher due to the higher cost of labor? I think, using corn since you brought that up, very little labor is involved now. Farms are pretty high tech.

Explain to me exactly how US food prices would skyrocket, and farmers wouldn't start importing beef inputs from South America. Which they have done, and some do now.

Let's turn that around. NAFTA hurt the Mexican ag industry. A variety of reasons for that. What real impact did this have on the US farmer or consumer? Some cite price swings in commodity. They cite it. They never really connect it to NAFTA. If that's what you're trying to do, connect this for me with some sort of empirical data. Not just data that shows price swings, but shows how NAFTA caused these. It's unprovable, and it's not like this didn't exist before NAFTA.

Yeah, they will try to negotiate, but their small farmer is mostly gone, so that would be interesting. Corporate farmers against corporate farmers. They lost labor, we didn't pick up a decreased cost of farm labor. That is another fallacy that can't be proven. We picked up tehir cheap labor. We already had it. Show me where farm labor costs decreased significantly, and show me where NAFTA caused this.

And the 1996 Farm bill had no impact either. A lot of people write about farmers and NAFTA, and I haven't seen one separate the farm bill impact form NAFTA's impact. Mostly they exaggerate NAFTA's impact and never mention the 1996 bill. No crop speculation either as interest rates got crushed.

Anyway, show me how Mexico renegotiates NAFTA in a realistic manner, and this has any type of significant impact on American ag.

Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
11446 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 7:35 pm to
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BMW 3 Series sedan there in 2019.


Good! Now people of limited means will stop over reaching to buy this piece of shite just because it has a luxury embalm on the hood.
Posted by Pinecone Repair
Burminham
Member since Nov 2013
7156 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:51 pm to
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Knowing this little about car options.


You're right... Here's my level of knowledge-

"I like the silver one better than the black."

My husband takes care of the rest.

Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:56 pm to
They are building a plant in mexico to build cars that will be sold in the US.

This is how you negotiate. Before Trump, the only negotiating would be how badly the American citizen is going to get fricked in the arse
Posted by King
Deep in the backwoods
Member since Sep 2008
18460 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:57 pm to
frick Germany and its left wing BS. frick BMW.

Go Trump
Posted by Rebelgator
Pripyat Bridge
Member since Mar 2010
39543 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 11:07 pm to
Aren't you the DV guy or the rapist?
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 11:22 pm to
quote:


"I like the silver one better than the black."

My husband takes care of the rest.



Posted by Pinecone Repair
Burminham
Member since Nov 2013
7156 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 11:34 pm to
And I love that I have no trouble admitting I'm not well versed on cars.
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
9189 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 11:36 pm to
quote:

this piece of shite just because it has a luxury embalm on the hood.


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