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re: BLM: NO POLICE proposal unveiled: no traffic stops, burglaries resolved by restorative jus

Posted on 6/8/20 at 1:12 pm to
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30770 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 1:12 pm to
Lol. Insanity.
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
51854 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 1:13 pm to
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Decriminalization of sex work and formation of an independent union to ensure individuals have insurance, child care and safety precautions


Posted by TriadTigers
North Carolina
Member since Jan 2020
1296 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 1:13 pm to
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Restorative justice (meetings between victim and offender) to be used to deal with property crimes such as theft and burglary


Like duels?
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30458 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 1:13 pm to
LOL, this is the greatest farce of this whole dealio.

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Traffic stops to be eliminated entirely, with traffic violations dealt with via. mail


The reason they put this in, is because they don't pay their traffic tickets, thus they have warrants. And when they get pulled over they go to jail. Now, they can continue not paying those fines, and continue not going to jail.

I do agree on the Domestic dealio. These are where a lot of cops get shot or killed. Have people trained in community, who can be called to an event in their area, and they help the cops try to defuse it.

Domestic calls are the worst a cop can get
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
146153 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 1:13 pm to
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Restorative justice (meetings between victim and offender) to be used to deal with property crimes such as theft and burglary

this 1 is interesting

show up to meeting

BANG

offender falls dead bleeding from brand new lead poisoning hole

walks out fully restored
Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
4834 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 1:14 pm to
These fricker don't attend school open houses, much less this type of shite.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 1:14 pm to
I don't think they should be able to arrest you for drugs after stopping you for speeding or other minor violations. I'm a "conservative" who has never used drugs, but I think the bad outweighs the good here.

Eta I assume that most people would be fine with traffic stops in theory if in practice they didn't lead to people going to prison for having drugs.
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 1:17 pm
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
15895 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 1:15 pm to
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My house is getting robbed by men with guns!"


We will immediately send our emotional support cat unit over.

I'm sure there situation will be puuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrr-fect!
Posted by Navtiger1
Washington
Member since Aug 2007
3368 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 1:15 pm to
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Mental health responders to attend mental health crisis in place of armed police


Cool and when the suicidal person turns the gun on those "responders" it becomes a murder suicide. Or when a whack job decides he wants to kill someone he gets victim delivery.

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Street outreach teams, more shelters and affordable housing to help solve homelessness and stop the homeless from being criminalized


Sure...good luck with that.

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Traffic stops to be eliminated entirely, with traffic violations dealt with via. mail


HAHAHA...Glad you want big brother watching every inch of the street. Oh and forget those warnings 100% tickets for everything. The city is going to get paid!

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Community members to attend domestic violence calls, to help intervene and establish long-term safety for the individuals


What?!? So they know nothing about domestic violence! "community members" so what happens to the perpetrator? A stern talking too? Mob justice? What if it looks like the dude beat his wife, but in reality she was the aggressor? What happens when they intervene and the victim puts a knife in their back for taking away daddy/mommy?

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Specialized physical and emotional support for victims of sexual violence Investing in prevention of sex trafficking to end economic and social conditions that lead to deeply rooted vulnerabilities


Cool...what about the perpetrator? Who investigates? How are they punished? See above.

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The legalization of marijuana to stop incarceration for the 'harmless' drug


Agree

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Better handling of drug offences to stop 'criminalizing of communities of color'


What? How? What the hell does this even mean? Let people of color go and only (non-police) arrest white people?

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Decriminalization of sex work and formation of an independent union to ensure individuals have insurance, child care and safety precautions


Agree

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Restorative justice (meetings between victim and offender) to be used to deal with property crimes such as theft and burglary


HAHAHAHA!!! Good luck getting the offender to agree with ZERO force behind you or threat of jail time. Just out of the goodness of their hearts. HAHAHA!!
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9508 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 1:16 pm to
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So basically to solve crime is to actually not have any laws

Hence no more crime.


Crime stops when you stops reporting it. Duh. It's science shitlord!
Posted by Icceytiger
Princeton, NJ
Member since Aug 2010
2084 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 1:16 pm to
Thanks for this! needed a good laugh today lol
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
11842 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 1:16 pm to
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Traffic stops to be eliminated entirely, with traffic violations dealt with via. mail


MADD going to be pissed!

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10,497 people died in alcohol-impaired driving crashes in 2017


But if it saves just one black person's feelings, it's worth it!
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 1:17 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41591 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 1:16 pm to
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Do they have a plan to replace the social workers who are killed in the line of duty when they're dispatched to diffuse a domestic violence situation?


No, but they are lining up funeral homes to handle things on a case by case basis.
Posted by MeatPants
Member since Nov 2015
8894 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 1:16 pm to
I tell you what. The mafia really missed the boat. If they would have protested about mistreatment of Italian Americans they basically could have made up their own laws and enforcement

So if you smacked around your wife all you have to do is deal with tony the lip showing up from down the block
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
59552 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 1:16 pm to
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I don't think they should be able to arrest you for drugs after stopping you for speeding or other minor violations. I'm a "conservative" who has never used drugs, but I think the bad outweighs the good here.



You could argue constitutionally they can’t charge you for anything you have in your car without a warrant. Maybe if it’s in plain sight but if they search your car after a simple speeding ticket that goes to far.
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
10929 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 1:16 pm to
what about robberies, sexual assaults, Home invasions, auto theft, murder, and on, and on?

Who is going to do the investigating to find the criminals?

Who is going to be there when citizens need help ASAP?

This is such a crock of shite I do not even know where to begin!

Also, good luck with the tax base since any smart business owner will be gone ASAP. No way you can run a business without law and order.
Posted by 62Tigerfan
Member since Sep 2015
5307 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 1:17 pm to
Who’s going to be working MVC’s with fatalities? Who’s going to investigate? Who’s directing traffic?
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29247 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 1:18 pm to
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Mental health responders to attend mental health crisis in place of armed police



I can see very quickly that these mental health responders will start shying away from the more disturbed people lest they want to become hostages or worse.

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Street outreach teams, more shelters and affordable housing to help solve homelessness and stop the homeless from being criminalized


Homeless people aren't criminalized because they are homeless (except for vagrancy laws, usually misdemeanors), they are criminalized because they are CRIMINALS. Most steal and aggressively panhandle to support drug/alcohol addiction.

Those "free" homes will become rat/roach/flea infested dumps in very short order.

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Traffic stops to be eliminated entirely, with traffic violations dealt with via. mail


It'll be like demolition berby on Minneapolis streets. Oh, and good luck getting people to respond to your strongly worded letter.

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Community members to attend domestic violence calls, to help intervene and establish long-term safety for the individuals.


Untrained do-gooders gonna get into the middle of some bad shite and not make it home that night.

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Restorative justice (meetings between victim and offender) to be used to deal with property crimes such as theft and burglary


Without an investigative police force, how are these offenders gonna be found, or are they admitting that they know who the thieves are?

I hear Minneapolis used to be a nice place. Gonna become Mogadishu pretty damn quick.
Posted by Snoopy04
Republic of Texas
Member since Aug 2015
3198 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 1:19 pm to
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Traffic stops to be eliminated entirely, with traffic violations dealt with via. mail

This one isn't terrible. Put on a 3 strike rule where the 3rd one gets you pulled over and dealt with in person. Hard to monitor 100% though. If a dude zooms by you doing a hundee, getting the license plate would be difficult. In an extreme situation like that I think a police chase and pull over would be warranted.

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The legalization of marijuana to stop incarceration for the 'harmless' drug

Elected officials love taxes no matter what side they're on, so not exactly sure why the government won't take advantage of this anyways. The majority of users would gladly pay upwards of 50% tax rate for the ease of driving to the corner store for a pack of J's versus calling his buddy Jaret for a dime bag of kush. All this will lead to is more fast food revenue and users back in the safety of their home playing video games and listening to music.

ETA: I do realize that legalizing this puts an infinite amount of pressure on the justice system that has countless incarcerations for marijuana offenses.

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Decriminalization of sex work and formation of an independent union

Say hello to increased divorce rates and decreased martial rates. AND possibly hello to big swinger establishments
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14657 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 1:19 pm to
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If I want to push my little 300D to 90MPH on the interstate, ready to fly apart, then I damn well ought to be able to so.


Who do they send to scrape you up off the asphalt? I guess it wouldn't really be required, since there really won't be any consequences for fellow commuters just grinding you into a greasy spot. I guess it's no big deal, unless you're talking about your wife and kids, or maybe your mom. Wait, what color are they? This will only count if you're a family of crackers.
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