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re: Bisexual daughter of Rick & Bubba host will no longer stay silent

Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
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Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:56 pm to
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So why aren't womanizers ostracized like homosexuals? Makes no sense.


They kinda are. I've known guys in church who get busted and they tend to leave church on their own because they can't face their friends. They find a new woman or wife and pop up at another church and start over - hopefully wiser and having learned the lesson.

The difference is with homosexuality it is much more obvious that you are sinning because you are with someone of your own gender. You can't just show up at another church with another dude and no one knowing what went on before.
Posted by Kafkas father
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:58 pm to
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And in this day and time most who did so in a place like Seattle would be broke as a joke, demonized, hated, homeless, friendless save for a few close confidants, and possibly even run the possibility of being put in prison for hate speech.


My church tries to sponsor some missionaries in areas like these to help them get by, and we send members on mission trips regularly. Cities like the ones you mentioned need more help than most areas of the world.




This is complete Bull shite BTW. All of it.

There are plenty of churches...thriving churches in Seattle.
You just do church different than most there do.

And that's okay.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
26292 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 1:00 pm to
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His platform put her through college. She can show a little respect.



How did she show disrespect? She outlined how she felt ostracized in her own family, she found a measure of redemption in her chosen circle, and others can, too.

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I believe that my father's actions were intended as love. I believe he can't know how powerfully he hurt me.


I didn't read anything that indicated something other than desire for him to accept her.
Posted by Jeff Boomhauer
Arlen, TX
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 1/13/17 at 1:03 pm to
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Since she exists, and all, dads not really flaunting his 'sex life' is he?


Well, dads not married to her mom anymore. He chose alcohol and womanizing over keeping their family together
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
15274 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 1:05 pm to
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There are plenty of churches...thriving churches in Seattle.
You just do church different than most there do.


I know there are thriving churches in Seattle. The question is are they bible based or culture based.

Eugene Cho for example is a very popular pastor in Seattle but I've got some serious issues with his watering down the word to fit his liberal social justice warrior outlook - which he happens to share with 90% of that city.
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 1:07 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65797 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 1:07 pm to
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So why aren't womanizers ostracized like homosexuals? Makes no sense.


In churches? I don't know about the churches you attend, but in any church I've ever attended serial adulterers are ostracized. Now if you're talking about someone who committed "a sin" and has repented, then you are doing exactly what everyone else does. Forgiveness is available to that person, and each situation is different. We are all sinners. That does not mean we should make an effort to live in sin with no desire to change.

My statement does assume people in the church know what someone is doing, but that same caveat goes for gay people. If folks keep things to themselves so no one ever finds out, then, obviously, no one is going to try to help them or encourage them to repent. Oftentimes people label church-goers as hypocrites because they associate with folks they know do not lead a Christian life, and they assume everyone in the church has that same knowledge. Christians who attend church are held to an impossible standard in this regard.

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God made some people gay. Some folks are going to have sex out of wedlock (and in many cases that's actually not a bad thing), etc. We're a little too didactic over some of these issues, IMO.


Even if you believe God makes some people gay, that does not change the fact that the Bible states homosexual activity is sinful. Trying to restrict yourself from sexual activity for 100 years is a small price to pay for eternity in Heaven. God made me straight, and I like looking pretty women, but that doesn't mean God made me a serial adulterer who should be addicted to porn. It's not even about never slipping up. It's about not giving into your sin completely and acting like there is no reason you should ever try to stop.

Sex out of wedlock is the same situation. I certainly was not a virgin when I married, but just because I sinned doesn't mean it wasn't sin.
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 1:10 pm
Posted by Kafkas father
Member since Aug 2016
1124 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 1:10 pm to
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Eugene Cho for example is a very popular pastor in Seattle but I've got some serious issues with his watering down the word to fit his liberal social justice warrior outlook - which he happens to share with 90% of that city.



That's fine and it's your opinion and it's okay.

You don't get to tell everyone how they should or should not practice their beliefs.
The fact that you said
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Cities like the ones you mentioned need more help than most areas of the world.

is the reason I called it BS.

Surely you don't believe that.?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65797 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 1:11 pm to
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is the reason I called it BS.

Surely you don't believe that.?


I said that, and I absolutely believe it. There are people in areas of our country who grow into adulthood without ever hearing the gospel of Christ. It's a travesty.

ETA: Mission fields in the U.S. are more difficult than many other areas where the government is not hostile to Christianity.
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 1:13 pm
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7827 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 1:13 pm to
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I bet she is talking about when he speaks at public events - which he does A LOT. I don't go to those.


Either way, it breaks down the argument here that she's the one that chose to publicly disclose.

Posted by Kafkas father
Member since Aug 2016
1124 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 1:13 pm to
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There are people in areas of our country who grow into adulthood without ever hearing the gospel of Christ. It's a travesty.


Dude, it's Seattle WA, not the middle of the Amazon jungle.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65797 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 1:14 pm to
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Either way, it breaks down the argument here that she's the one that chose to publicly disclose.


I have been looking, but I have been able to find no evidence that he has ever mentioned her on his show other than the quote you posted. Have you?
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 1:15 pm
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7827 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 1:15 pm to
The fact is this forum is full of fig-hating "Christians". Kudos to the believers in here who are actually preaching love and forgiveness. You know, the Jesusy stuff.
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 1:16 pm
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34241 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 1:15 pm to
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there is no sin short of out and out reaction of Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and savior that will keep you from His grace and love

That's nice and all, but technically not true. Homosexuality is clearly defined as an abomination (something that causes hatred, disgust in God)
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If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them

And for one to even be capable of doing this, God has already turned them over to a reprobate mind (to foreordain to damnation, to refuse to accept)
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And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Once you go there, there is no coming back
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
15274 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 1:15 pm to
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Cities like the ones you mentioned need more help than most areas of the world.

is the reason I called it BS.

Surely you don't believe that.?


Actually I'm not the one who said that but I do believe it is accurate. There are parts of this country that have veered so far into not just unrepentant sin and amorality but also militant hate toward Christianity that yes they need more missionaries than other parts of the world.

Just because a place may be rich in wealth and some other place may not even have running water is no indicator of which one needs outreach the most.
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7827 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 1:17 pm to
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I have been looking, but I have been able to find no evidence that he has ever mentioned her on his show other than the quote you posted. Have you?


Nope. All we have is her word. You should ask the people who are claiming that HE has never disclosed any of this publicly.....since they are the ones making claims without even as much as a statement from Rick.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65797 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 1:17 pm to
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Dude, it's Seattle WA, not the middle of the Amazon jungle.


What I stated is true whether you believe it or not.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65797 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 1:18 pm to
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Nope. All we have is her word. You should ask the people who are claiming that HE has never disclosed any of this publicly.....since they are the ones making claims without even as much as a statement from Rick.




You basically just said that she's talking about it publicly, but he still isn't...

This story was released today at 6:30 am. They had a show today. If he didn't mention this story on his show today, then I would say that goes a long way toward making those claims (that he doesn't talk about her sexuality on his show) look accurate.
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 1:21 pm
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7827 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 1:20 pm to
Well, we're not just talking about his radio show breh.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65797 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 1:20 pm to
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Well, we're not just talking about his radio show breh.


We don't know that.
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