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re: Bill to Stop Employees Confronting Shoplifters Passed by California Senate

Posted on 6/6/23 at 11:55 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295724 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 11:55 am to
Imagine 35 million Tarzana's.

Thats California.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39496 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 11:57 am to
Good description.

Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19067 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 11:59 am to
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ebay gonna be lit.

So is Amazon when every retailer goes tits-up.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50795 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:08 pm to
Normative moral relativism holds that because nobody is right or wrong, everyone ought to tolerate the behavior of others even when large disagreements about morality exist.

There exists a huge moral war. This is a prime example.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16197 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:45 pm to
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This seems like common-sense legislation.


Damn right. I hope it makes its way to Portland, Seattle, St Louis, Chicago, Baltimore, New York, etc. I hope they are completely and fully successful in implementing this in every blue city.

I then want more common sense legislation that bans the stores from putting anything behind anything locked. 100% common sense. Totally, completely, common sense legislation.

After that… laws that requires businesses to actually go pull and deliver to people everything they want at the front of the store where they don’t have to walk back to the isles to physically steal. Hand them a list, they go bag, off you go. That is common sense legislation that will keep criminals out of stores. Just bag it and hand it to them at the door. Common sense.



Posted by Mago
Member since Apr 2022
71 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:47 pm to
They need to make the penalties for shoplifting harsher in California. That's why that state is going through an epidemic of robberies. It's no consequence for criminal behavior in that state.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26355 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:49 pm to
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and now they want to make it illegal for retail employees to stop you from stealing.


That's not what this bill does.

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Cortese, a Democrat representing much of Santa Clara County in the heart of Silicon Valley, told Newsweek: "SB 553 is focused on protecting employees. The bill does not prohibit employees from stopping theft. It does prevent employers from asking non-security personnel to confront a person involved in criminal activity. We don't want rank and file employees to be forced to place themselves in harm's way."
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
14326 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:52 pm to
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This seems like common-sense legislation. 


quote:

tarzana

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295724 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:54 pm to
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They need to make the penalties for shoplifting harsher in California.


The people that run the cities want shoplifting.

The penalties below a felony amount are virtually non existent. Stupid progressives are too dumb to realize it aint the hood rats benefitting the most, its the white drug addicts selling the stuff on ebay who are.
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37322 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 1:01 pm to
So they are saying that now security guards cannot stop the very thing they are hired to stop?
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
8681 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 1:02 pm to
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This seems like common-sense legislation. You're talking about activities which should be addressed by law enforcement personnel, not store clerks.


Yes, because we know law enforcement is supported and there’s an officer around every store corner who can be quickly available to “talk it out” with the perp and then nicely ask if they’ll consider returning the items.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16197 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 1:10 pm to
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"SB 553 is focused on protecting employees.


You bought that!

You saving 2,500 bucks a year on your health insurance?

Enjoying “the adults back in charge??”

Loving your “transitory” inflation?

They hang you with the “this action does this!!!1!1!1!1!!” Every single time. Every. Single. Time. You get your kick in the balls. Then, rinse and repeat.

I guess every small business is going to have to hire security eh? Just the cost of doing business you filthy, wealthy, one percenters!!
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
12200 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 1:16 pm to
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Cortese, a Democrat representing much of Santa Clara County in the heart of Silicon Valley, told Newsweek: "SB 553 is focused on protecting employees. The bill does not prohibit employees from stopping theft. It does prevent employers from asking non-security personnel to confront a person involved in criminal activity. We don't want rank and file employees to be forced to place themselves in harm's way."


If whta this demoncrat is saying is true, I actually might support this:

"Cortese, a Democrat representing much of Santa Clara County in the heart of Silicon Valley, told Newsweek: "SB 553 is focused on protecting employees. The bill does not prohibit employees from stopping theft. It does prevent employers from asking non-security personnel to confront a person involved in criminal activity. We don't want rank and file employees to be forced to place themselves in harm's way."

I have a friend who used to work at a 7-11 that had a lot of theft but no security. The employees were told by the manager to confront shoplifters and that put her in several dangerous positions.

But we all know these problems are created and perpetuated by the democrats anyway. So to come out with legislation to protect workers from shoplifters when they are at the same time emboldening the shoplifters is peak clown world shite
This post was edited on 6/6/23 at 1:18 pm
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35402 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 1:35 pm to
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But some store bosses are furious about the plans, with the California Retailers Association mocking the move as an open invitation for thieves "to come in and steal."

How much you want to bet that I can guarantee exactly how the California Retailers Association has historically voted, and which candidates they've historically supported?

You made your bed.
Posted by Corso
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2020
11789 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 2:12 pm to
Might as well just put the most popular items on a table outside and advertise a 100% off sale
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 3:25 pm to
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A number of states have already proven hostile to Cali refugees.

You think Texas will go easy on them?

Texas is weak and ghey as hell already. Every major city in TX has Soros DAs that will let them do whatever they want. Then you have all the ghey rainbow shite they are promoting.

Texas really has become a sad state.
Posted by Gumbaw
Member since May 2018
705 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 3:50 pm to
Property value will plummet, and property investors that are in bed with the politicians will feast.
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
9742 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 4:03 pm to
Meanwhile here in Fresno we just hired 10 additional cops just to monitor the streets for illegally modified vehicles & street racing. That’s the entirety of their position. They even set up a tip line to call in. Here’s a quote from the current Chief of Police:

quote:

"A lot of people will submit videos through our social media platforms and we use this information to identify the vehicle, identify the driver, and we can actually press charges after the fact," said Balderrama.


You can get a massively different experience depending on where you live. The Bay and SoCal give all of us a bad name.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
57875 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 4:06 pm to
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staff from being forced by their employers to step-in during robberies


I worked retail for years when I was younger. I don't remember a single company I worked for, nor those any I knew worked for, that ever "forced" their employees to attempt to foil robberies. The opposite was true, that employers would urge their employees not to get involved. The desire to avoid lawsuits in the retail industry is massive, to the point where the only job I ever walked out on was in retail management when upper management allowed a shoplifter to get off without charges as long as he gave the merchandise back (this was after a mall cop and I chased the thief, finally wrestling him down in the back of a truck stopped at a nearby red light).

All this bill does is double-down on the insanity of Cali's $950 ceiling on misdemeanor theft (meaning no arrest).
Posted by JColtF
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Aug 2008
4760 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 5:29 pm to
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ebay gonna be lit.




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