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re: Biden’s team had to know going into the debate

Posted on 5/22/25 at 8:11 am to
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 8:11 am to
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That he was going to totally bomb it. From the minute he stepped on stage, he looked and sounded like he was coming out of a deep sleep. And they obviously knew he was physically and mentally unwell, and still tried to force him on us.


The Democrats play was, to let the whole world see Joe for who he was so they could install Kamala. I think they knew he wouldn't make it through another term and couldn't risk him staying in it and exposing the whole plan.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 8:23 am to
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There is NO DOUBT in my mind then or now that somebody (probably Obama) put the word out to his media allies before the debate: "Let's see how he does, but be ready if he bombs".



The outcome was already fixed. That's why the Dems set the debate so early. The whole point by whoever controls the Dems was to 86 Biden in time to install a better candidate.
Posted by leeman101
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2020
2642 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 8:29 am to
I wonder if any of this will eventually come out in years to come. Surely there will be leaks.
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
369 Cardboard Box Lane
Member since Nov 2019
14225 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 8:32 am to
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Biden’s team had to know going into the debate
DyeHardDylan
That he was going to totally bomb it. From the minute he stepped on stage, he looked and sounded like he was coming out of a deep sleep. And they obviously knew he was physically and mentally unwell, and still tried to force him on us.




This is a new analysis I haven't heard yet.
Posted by GruntbyAssociation
Member since Jul 2013
9679 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 8:35 am to
Obama and Pelosi decided he needed to go. His meds were withheld so he could fumble around publicly to start the replacement process.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 8:35 am to
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I still believe firmly the original plan was to have Biden serve just enough time in his first term for Kamala to take over, and (potentially) reign for 10 years. I'd like to know what made then abandon that plan.


I agree completely. I never thought Biden would complete even his first term. It seemed obvious that Harris was the Blob's choice for 2020...but she was just such a bad candidate that she couldn't even last until the first Democratic primary.

It still amazes me that the "Democratic" party hasn't chosen its nominee in a democratic way since 2008...and they never get called out for it.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41698 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:09 am to
It was still so incredibly dumb for trump to agree to that debate in JUNE
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 8:08 pm to
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The hope was that he would appear ok on the TV screen. If they could dig him up and us makeup to make him seem not totally demented for an hour with no studio audience to distract him, the thought was they might fill enough people to get him elected. Because they're was such a clamor building about his condition they had to try something. Well they tried something and it failed worse then they thought. But even them the media tried to cover. It was amazing.

Complete opposite. They didn’t let Dr Feelgood come visit bc they wanted him to appear weak and senile so they could install Kamala since it was past of any chance of a primary.

They lost bc Democrats who aren’t inflicted with the mind virus saw right through it. Especially black men. They thought everyone would toe the line and vote party.
This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 8:10 pm
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 8:13 pm to
And yet millions knew what to expect from him in the debate. Those that were surprised are clueless or idiots, probably both.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
32162 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:39 pm to
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They could hide it no longer The jig was up They held off as long as they could


Cancelling the debate would have given them better odds. They let him go out there for a reason.
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
19793 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:55 pm to
Jill Biden enjoyed the perks too much.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
49739 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:03 pm to
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Biden’s team had to know going into the debate


I feel 90% certain that Obama and others KNEW that Brandon couldn't survive the debates in the general election, so they set this one up in order to set the groundwork for making a switch (only, Obama planned on having an open convention instead of promoting Kamala).

I mean, ask yourself one question. When had we EVER seen a debate between the presumptive nominees of the 2 major parties BEFORE their respective conventions?
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
26249 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:26 pm to
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
7035 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:31 pm to
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The dude literally hung out in a basement

And when he did come out of his basement for a rally (that’s what they called it) there were maybe 100 people sitting in painted circles on the ground
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
46948 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:32 pm to
Never forget Joe taunting Trump about debating him on a Wednesday when he knew Trump was tied up in court with the ridiculous lawfare crap which was fully orchestrated by Joe’s own DOJ.

Effer is as dirty & soulless as they come. FJB
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 3:25 am to
Everyone knew it
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23151 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 5:34 am to
It’s why they scheduled the debate before the convention

They needed to let him flop in public to get rid of him
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62075 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 6:21 am to
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That he was going to totally bomb it. From the minute he stepped on stage, he looked and sounded like he was coming out of a deep sleep. And they obviously knew he was physically and mentally unwell, and still tried to force him on us.


The thing is, in previous debates, they had Biden heavily hopped up on drugs to keep him alert, but from the second I saw him walk up on this debate stage, i knew something was wrong. The question I can’t figure out is why? It obviously was a deliberate choice by Biden’s handlers to let him look bad. But why? Why then?
Posted by schwartzy
New Orleans
Member since May 2014
10024 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 6:54 am to
But how the hell did Biden even survive the state of the union all those other times? He looked so drugged up. We just all thought that would be the case again, but he ended up bombing more than even I could have imagined in my wildest dreams
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