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re: Biden will not be the Dems candidate to face Trump.

Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:09 pm to
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:09 pm to
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History is loaded with titular heads of state. Name the POTUS that fits this


I said 'history'. I would start with Ludwig 'the mad' of Bavaria. But there are tons of them.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:10 pm to
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I said 'history'. I would start with Ludwig 'the mad' of Bavaria. But there are tons of them.




And, we are discussing a POTUS election
Posted by Walkthedawg
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:11 pm to
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So sometime after the convention they will announce that Joe is sick and that Hillary is stepping in to save the party and America


If that happens Trump won't even have to campaign
Posted by Amblin
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:13 pm to
This isn't about the presidency, Dems just trying to win House and Senate seats and that is it. They know they cannot beat trump.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:14 pm to
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And, we are discussing a POTUS election


And, therefore, historical references are not allowed? Do you really want to go there?
Posted by Load Toad
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Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:14 pm to
Biden wins,they will use 25A in 2 years.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:16 pm to
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And, therefore, historical references are not allowed? Do you really want to go there?



I asked for a POTUS reference since we are discussing POTUS. I am not "going there" (wherever 'there' is).

Relax. Your non sequitur is fine. I was just trying to stay on subject
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:16 pm to
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It is clear that Biden is suffering from early stages of dementia.
Big deal, it wouldn't be the first time we elected someone to the office thus afflicted.
Posted by davyjones
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Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:16 pm to
Yeah I'd say seeing as how she offended so many key regions in 2016 by not paying them due attention, probably would be necessary to have been forging new relationships in those locations by putting in serious time already, starting with the primary process. The suggested stunt would isolate even more voters than 2016, IMO. An even worse loss as a consequence.
This post was edited on 3/5/20 at 2:18 pm
Posted by Thunder
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:19 pm to
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Hillary Clinton will be the Democrat nominee.

Her or Stacy .... No way in fricking hell do they allow a socialist nor a mentally ill democrat to go against Trump... Because he will destroy them in the debates.... They know this and it will damage their pos party
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:22 pm to
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No way in fricking hell do they allow a



Who are these great "THEY"s?


Did "they" (Rs) want Trump in '16? "they" can put their thumb on the scale. But, "they" can't change this on a whim. Bernie or Biden will be the nominee and Biden is the most likely.

Posted by Zach
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:25 pm to
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I asked for a POTUS reference since we are discussing POTUS. I am not "going there" (wherever 'there' is).


No. I answered the OP directly. You then misread 'history' and asked for the POTUS reference. I then corrected your mistake.

quote:

Relax. Your non sequitur is fine. I was just trying to stay on subject


If I were any more relaxed I'd be dead. I was on subject. I used an historical reference.
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:26 pm to
Exactly. It's far too late for her to even try by this point. She would only be riding the Anti-Trump sentiment wave. That's it. The only people who would vote for her are the people who have already made up their mind to vote against Trump no matter what. And because Trump has done a good job in his first term, that number of people has only gone down since 2016, no matter what the media may say.

Trump is turning out record numbers in the primaries. That isn't being touched on by the media. They're screwed and they know it.

Meanwhile, sentiment towards Clinton has actually turned negative even among a lot of Democrats who supported her in 2016. I've seen it in my personal life. And that's not considering the the massive online campaign against her that's been waged non-stop since she lost the election last time.

Trump's support has gone up, hers has gone down.

She would have zero chance of winning. And she knows it too.

No chance she gets in the race. She would have had to have gotten started very early and she didn't. She knows it's a dead end. Hell, she's been officially rebuked by her own minority whip. He scoffed at the idea of Clinton jumping in and said straight out it's time for the DNC to move in a different direction. She wouldn't even have the support of her own party. People thinking she's gonna jump in haven't really given it much thought.

Having said all that, it wouldn't surprise me too much if Biden chose her as his VP pick.
This post was edited on 3/5/20 at 2:30 pm
Posted by Homesick Tiger
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Member since Nov 2006
56126 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:34 pm to
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Like Mark Steyn said today, I think their plan is to have some up and coming black or female as the Veep, then they win, and sometime after the 2 year mark in Biden's term, he resigns. Veep takes over and then tries to get two more terms.


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Mark Steyn


He must read TDs. I made that same statement more than a week ago.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:35 pm to
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Name the POTUS that fits this



...and towards the end:

Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:36 pm to
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No. I answered the OP directly.


The OP says nothing about history and is specifically about POTUS

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You then misread 'history'


I read HISTORY. Not "misread"

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and asked for the POTUS reference


correct

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I then corrected your mistake.


I made no mistake. I asked what I intended to ask


Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:40 pm to
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It is clear that Biden is suffering from early stages of dementia. Still they will push Biden hard to get as many delegates as possible. They know that even though Bernie is second that he stands no chance in being a openly admitted socialist. So sometime after the convention they will announce that Joe is sick and that Hillary is stepping in to save the party and America. They will play on the narrative that she is sacrificing for everyone. I think is already in the works at the highest levels of the DNC. I don't think they have any intention what so ever of Biden or Bernie being the candidate to face Trump in November.


Either that, or they know they can't beat Trump; and Biden is a throwaway. At least minus Bernie, they may can hold the House, and challenge for the Senate.

With Bloom's money...they may pull something at the Convention. Hillary or Michelle as VP, might be plausible when it really won't matter anyway.

Convention will be interesting.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53758 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:40 pm to
In all likelihood it will be Biden. The vast majority of Dim Swamp intelligentsia know Biden probably loses to Trump but at least the Dim party survives along with the DimMedia. If Sanders were to win the nomination and somehow win the 2020 GE the future of the traditional Dim party is over.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34016 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:42 pm to
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Her or Stacy


You think Stacy Abrams has a chance to be the presidential nominee?

It’s fricking batshit crazy for her to even be considered for VP.

President? That’s a whole other level of psychotic.

She’s never won more than a local election.

Black females are the most disliked demographic in the country.
This post was edited on 3/5/20 at 2:43 pm
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Member since Jan 2008
53736 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:50 pm to
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Black females are the most disliked demographic in the country.
don’t tell the YASSSS QUEEEENS
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