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re: Biden wants Americans to envision traveling by rail
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:21 am to Jbird
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:21 am to Jbird
I don't necessarily see expanded rail service as a bad thing overall. As the country gets more urban it may be a net plus.
Southerners have a negative reaction towards trains and rail. We like our trucks and cars. If you could have dedicated lines woth minimal stops it could work. The problem is they don't and then there is AmTrack.
Southerners have a negative reaction towards trains and rail. We like our trucks and cars. If you could have dedicated lines woth minimal stops it could work. The problem is they don't and then there is AmTrack.
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:23 am to KiwiHead
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Southerners have a negative reaction towards trains and rail. We like our trucks and cars. If you could have dedicated lines woth minimal stops it could work. The problem is they don't and then there is AmTrack.
And not all cities are as dense as NY or London or Tokyo.
Great, take a rail to Dallas. The "things to do in Dallas" are further apart than they are in NY, Boston, or London. Not as many cabs, no subway. You're going to spend someone else's gas money ubering around anyway, lol.
Dumb.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:24 am to Jbird
I'm not gonna lie, I'd kill to have high speed rail. Not going to praise Biden if he pushes it forward, though.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:25 am to Jbird
Future quote from Biden: "imagine a world where in-door plumbing is a thing of the past. No more pipes running under your house, carrying nasty stuff in them. A world where everyone has a separate, stand alone, small building..to do their business in, away from their living areas."
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:27 am to Jbird
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Imagine a world where you and your family…can travel on a high-speed train close to as fast as you can go across the country in a plane."
I’m imagining it.. I’m imagining it being like the high speed rail project in CA that was multibillions over budget and still not done.
I’m also imagining that train hitting a full grown cow that escaped an fence, derailing, and turning a hundred or so people into red jelly.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:29 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
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Serious question, what does a coast-to-coast high-speed rail solve?
Environmental? I don't think so - the resources used to construct and maintain such a monstrosity would be enormous.
Cost? Not really. A project like that would take decades to show a positive ROI, unless the federal government does it then it would never have a positive ROI. Even once built a ticket is going to be at least $2-300 easily. Right now, you can fly JFK to LAX roundtrip for $298.
What is there in this?
You got me thinking. Did some quick research and almost 3 million people a year fly from LAX to JFK. That is one route. It would require a fleet of trains and several tracks to move a similar number of people. None of that seems feasible.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:31 am to UcobiaA
Here’s the deal Fats. Imagine a world where you and a neighbor can have a bbq and watch fireworks.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:35 am to AUCom96
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Translation: Peasants, move away from your suburban white nationalist neighborhoods and into the cramped, overcrowded metros where we can control you better.
Imagine 1970's New York, the subway. Being assaulted and robbed by gangs of marginalized minorities. Living in a studio apartment that rents for 6 times what your 4 bedroom house in the now abandoned 'burbs cost you per month. At election time, gangs of thugs beat on your door and threaten violence if you don't put your signature to the ballot they've already conveniently filled out for you. This is your future with the left. Meanwhile, the Bidens, Pelosis and AOCs of the world will have armed security, walled off estates and private jets to make up for the carbon you are no longer able to spread into the atmosphere.
IMHO, you are a visionary and have painted an accurate image of the vaunted United States of American in the year 2121. IMHO, much of the USA will look exactly like this, and we will still be a long way from having a strong Secessionist Movement.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:35 am to PiscesTiger
The Turnip is truly a visionary.
I tell the kids — the young people who work for me and to all my kids — when I go on college campuses, they’re going to see more change in the next 10 years than we’ve seen in the last 50 years. We’re going to talk about commercial aircraft flying at subsonic speeds — supersonic speeds. Be able to, figuratively, if you may — if we decided to do it, traverse the world in about an hour, travel 21,000 miles an hour. So much is changing. We have got to lead it.
I tell the kids — the young people who work for me and to all my kids — when I go on college campuses, they’re going to see more change in the next 10 years than we’ve seen in the last 50 years. We’re going to talk about commercial aircraft flying at subsonic speeds — supersonic speeds. Be able to, figuratively, if you may — if we decided to do it, traverse the world in about an hour, travel 21,000 miles an hour. So much is changing. We have got to lead it.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:36 am to Jbird
individual rights must be constrained
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:39 am to CleverUserName
good thing cows cant fly
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:39 am to UcobiaA
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You got me thinking. Did some quick research and almost 3 million people a year fly from LAX to JFK. That is one route. It would require a fleet of trains and several tracks to move a similar number of people. None of that seems feasible.
The high speed study in the UK found it only cost 76 million Euros per km to build. Hell of a deal. Another study, in USD, estimates $80-140 million per mile. It's around 2,500 miles as the crow flies, so that line would only cost around $200 billion to build (taking the lower end of the range). Ignoring fraud, corruption, waste, the fact that it can't be built in a straight line, or that you won't make the track longer to travel through other major cities along the way.
That's one line. Orlando to Seattle? Another $200 billion.
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 8:40 am
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:40 am to Jbird
It is easy to envision travel by HSR.
The hard part is envisioning a world in which it is economically feasible.
The hard part is envisioning a world in which it is economically feasible.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:41 am to Jbird
quote:Idiot. You’ll have to imagine it, because it’s not happening.
Biden: "Imagine a world where you and your family…can travel on a high-speed train close to as fast as you can go across the country in a plane."
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:42 am to Robin Masters
Who cares if you go 200 mph. You will have to stop every few minutes to let people on and off and to go through towns.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:43 am to Taxing Authority
But Biden’s vision of a passenger aircraft that can “traverse the world in about an hour, travel 21,000 miles an hour” is a strong argument for mandatory drug testing in the White House.
President Biden might as well have promised warp speed, a hyperdrive, or teleportation. It goes well with his promise to cure cancer if elected president.LINK
President Biden might as well have promised warp speed, a hyperdrive, or teleportation. It goes well with his promise to cure cancer if elected president.LINK
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:44 am to bird35
I want one of these, while we're talking about shite that will never happen:
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:45 am to Jbird
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But Biden’s vision of a passenger aircraft that can “traverse the world in about an hour, travel 21,000 miles an hour” is a strong argument for mandatory drug testing in the White House.
President Biden might as well have promised warp speed, a hyperdrive, or teleportation. It goes well with his promise to cure cancer if elected president.LINK
With one of those, Kamala could blow Putin and be back under her desk in two hours tops.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:46 am to 03GeeTee
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Should say:
“Imagine spending trillions of dollars so that 30 years from now you and your family can travel across the country in the same amount of time as it takes now.”
Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:46 am to BiteMe2020
Tell me this isn’t more money to Warren Buffet,.....anyone?
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