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Biden gun rule being drafted to effectively ban private sales: ATF whistleblowers

Posted on 1/31/24 at 8:12 pm
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
8057 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 8:12 pm
NY Post

WASHINGTON — A watchdog group is demanding documents from the Biden administration after whistleblowers alleged that a regulation is under development that would effectively ban private gun sales.

The group, Empower Oversight, said Wednesday that two sources have claimed that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) is preparing to propose a rule requiring background checks for most or all gun sales.

President Biden has campaigned for stricter gun laws and in August proposed a regulation to clarify that people who “repetitively” sell guns must register as federally licensed gun dealers subject to background checks.

“The whistleblowers say the rule is being drafted by Senior Policy Counsel Eric Epstein, who worked as the Phoenix Field Office’s Division Counsel during Operation Wide Receiver (a precursor of Operation Fast and Furious).”

Leavitt added: “Such a sweeping rule with the effect of banning private sales would clearly violate the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution, which declares that ‘the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.'”

Empower Oversight sent a Freedom of Information Act request Wednesday to the Justice Department and ATF seeking additional information, including communications with the White House and any Epstein emails involving the alleged plan.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139808 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 8:13 pm to
Take the guns first.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
34949 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 8:13 pm to
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Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF)


Unconstitutional terrorist fricks.
Posted by Tower_Tiger12
Member since Jan 2021
783 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 8:17 pm to
Come and get yourself Big Guy
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78939 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 8:17 pm to
Lots and lots of boating accidents incoming
Posted by PrecedentedTimes
Member since Dec 2020
3111 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 8:21 pm to
They can’t even keep the bump stock ban from getting smacked down and now this? Lol
Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
10185 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 8:22 pm to
Sorry Mr ATF guy I lost all my privately purchased firearms in a dumpster by a kid’s playground while high on crack cocaine.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71256 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 8:22 pm to
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Take the guns first.


Someone needs to find a cure for tds
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28104 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 8:23 pm to
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Take the guns first


Uh oh
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139808 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 8:25 pm to
Taking the guns first is how they control us. 2A must be protected.

Always.

Posted by Tandemjay
Member since Jun 2022
2350 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 8:39 pm to
It would be nice to have a political party in DC that would cut the budget or at least oversee the ATF.

Stop voting GOPe.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64273 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 8:41 pm to
Sandstorm.

Next?
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23026 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 8:47 pm to
Open boarder
Military age men arriving by the thousands daily
US Army weaker than ever
Now they want the citizens guns
Media gaslighting every step of the way to say the opposite.

Media tells me if my mind questions this I’m a compsiracy theorist.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98540 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 9:19 pm to
This sure sounds like impairment of my property without due process.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
29958 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 9:27 pm to
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by roadGator


Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139808 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 9:29 pm to
I have no plans to limit 2A.

Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17825 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 9:31 pm to
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Stop voting GOPe.

It's all we have left to choose from. That and Dems, who are worse.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90526 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 9:49 pm to
How would this even be enforced? I sell a gun it’s for cash no record of it.


Though these days I never sell a gun I’m keeping all I have
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
29958 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 9:50 pm to
I know exactly what you meant. Question: Clearly unhinged 18 year old guy begins livestreaming and states details of his plan to terminate as many lives as he can at a local elementary school, but is intentionally vague about when and where. Even shows off his weapon of choice.

Couple of people who know who he is call the police and relay the exact same details. Of course an immediate look at the person’s social media account fully backs it up.

You suggest just go watch him, nothing else? If that even? Say you are watching his home and observe him loading a long slender case into his car. Just keep watching? Despite all those signs and clearly disturbing evidence in this rare but realistic instance, you will hold steadfastly to his Second Amendment right unless and until you are convinced that you’ve finally personally observed what you now personally witnessed to indeed be a gun, problem being he has only made the gun observable as he’s unsheathing it and already within range of 50 kids on the playground.

I’m sold on that. Rights are rights, not even q single set of circumstances outranks it.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139808 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 9:50 pm to
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How would this even be enforced? I sell a gun it’s for cash no record of it.


A snitch would have to turn you in.

That’s part of the deterrent.

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