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Best way to beat Trump in 2020 -- cause a Recession.
Posted on 5/10/18 at 10:02 am
Posted on 5/10/18 at 10:02 am
Here's a question for economists and people who have studied economics -- how could the Dems and their acolytes cause a recession in early 2020 in order to facilitate a Dem White House win in 2020?
Is this possible? Or is the economy so very complex that it would impossible for a group of powerful people to manipulate it for political gain?
Thanks.
Is this possible? Or is the economy so very complex that it would impossible for a group of powerful people to manipulate it for political gain?
Thanks.
Posted on 5/10/18 at 10:05 am to Champagne
Or spend low 6 digits on anti Trump Facebook ads.
This post was edited on 5/10/18 at 10:28 am
Posted on 5/10/18 at 10:05 am to Champagne
The best way for Dems to cause a recession is to be in power and implement their policies.
Other methods require far more long term efforts such as Freddie and Fannie bubbling up and the bursting in 2008 when the proper pressure was applied.
Other methods require far more long term efforts such as Freddie and Fannie bubbling up and the bursting in 2008 when the proper pressure was applied.
Posted on 5/10/18 at 10:06 am to Champagne
I doubt that happens, but Trump may be a victim of his own success with interest rates going up to try to kill his amazing improvement of the economy. It’s just heating up too much, too quick...
Posted on 5/10/18 at 10:07 am to CamdenTiger
I've upvoted you and the other responsive post in this thread so far.
So, the smart answer is that it is a matter of chance/luck and deliberate manipulation of the economy to cause a crash is not reasonably achievable?
So, the smart answer is that it is a matter of chance/luck and deliberate manipulation of the economy to cause a crash is not reasonably achievable?
Posted on 5/10/18 at 10:09 am to Champagne
Ask the Rothschilds
ETA: Seriously, it's like their families mo for 100's of years
ETA: Seriously, it's like their families mo for 100's of years
This post was edited on 5/10/18 at 10:11 am
Posted on 5/10/18 at 10:11 am to Champagne
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Is this possible?
Not only possible, some would say probable. If the swamp is as deep as some think it is, a recession is the only way to keep Trump out, IMO.....unless he does/has done something really stupid that he can't gloss over
Posted on 5/10/18 at 10:12 am to Champagne
i don't think the dems can cause a Recession but i do believe the economy can slow down before the next election. The stock market has been climbing for almost 10 straight years. That is an incredible run and history tells us that can't go on forever. I also believe the POTUS only can influence such a small part of the economy.
Posted on 5/10/18 at 10:13 am to Champagne
A. Too complex for a party to start one with a President that would veto any legislation
B. Trump can be in a recession and get reelected. The loyalists are emotionally attached, economics aren't really their motivator.
C. After Hillary lost, and this wave of BS pettiness by the party and people, Dems lost a ton of moderates. They would need a strong in the middle moderate to run, and they won't make it out of the primaries.
B. Trump can be in a recession and get reelected. The loyalists are emotionally attached, economics aren't really their motivator.
C. After Hillary lost, and this wave of BS pettiness by the party and people, Dems lost a ton of moderates. They would need a strong in the middle moderate to run, and they won't make it out of the primaries.
Posted on 5/10/18 at 10:18 am to Champagne
Nancy already told you how: Democrats will raise taxes!
Posted on 5/10/18 at 10:20 am to Eli Goldfinger
quote:Yep.
Or spend 6 digits on anti Trump Facebook ads.
They just need to work it out with Iran and they're Golden.
Too easy.
Posted on 5/10/18 at 10:20 am to Champagne
It’s a matter of knowing the right place to add pressure to cause a cascade of damage.
To give a theoretical example, we all know the city of Chicago is about bankrupt and not very liquid. Same with the state of Illinois.
Toppling one or both would be bad but not enough to cause a recession.
If enough businesses or banks either held bonds issued by one or both OR were suppliers who didn’t get paid by them, a bankruptcy potentially causes a ripple effect depending on cash flow issues.
To give a theoretical example, we all know the city of Chicago is about bankrupt and not very liquid. Same with the state of Illinois.
Toppling one or both would be bad but not enough to cause a recession.
If enough businesses or banks either held bonds issued by one or both OR were suppliers who didn’t get paid by them, a bankruptcy potentially causes a ripple effect depending on cash flow issues.
Posted on 5/10/18 at 10:21 am to Champagne
That's what caught up to Bush Sr. in 1992.
Posted on 5/10/18 at 10:24 am to Champagne
A lot of macroeconomists think there will be a recession later this year or sometime next year, and it wouldn't necessarily need to be caused by any political move. Any number of things could spark it.
Posted on 5/10/18 at 10:24 am to Champagne
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This post was edited on 5/10/18 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 5/10/18 at 10:27 am to CamdenTiger
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with interest rates going up
Good. I need a better rate on my CDs. This .25%, .30% payout for the last nine years has been pathetic.
Posted on 5/10/18 at 10:28 am to Champagne
I do believe Arab wealth funds helped crash the market in fall of 2008 to help obama
Posted on 5/10/18 at 10:29 am to RG550
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If a recession occurs, it's on republicans, seeing as they control every branch of government at the moment...
That's the idea, bro. Are we going too fast for you? If the Dems can engineer some kind of economic setback then their allies in the Mass Media will make sure that the masses are messaged that Trump is to blame.
That's why I started the thread, see?
Posted on 5/10/18 at 10:29 am to Jyrdis
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A lot of macroeconomists think there will be a recession later this year or sometime next year
i haven't seen any of the typical professional forecasting firms or agencies saying that, although it does seem to be consensus that this year will be better than last year just because of the demand-side stimulus from the tax bill
who's saying there's going to be a recession this year or next, and why? trade restrictions? spiking oil prices?
Posted on 5/10/18 at 10:31 am to Champagne
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cause a Recession
This would mean they know something about economics and believe me, they don't.
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