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re: Best Arguments & Methods To Defend Ownership or Possession of High Capacity Mags
Posted on 2/15/18 at 11:12 am to AmericaOverParties
Posted on 2/15/18 at 11:12 am to AmericaOverParties
quote:Waatevs.
Point proven
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Posted on 2/15/18 at 11:12 am to asurob1
quote:
US, deadliest modern mass shootings
1 2017 Vegas, 58 killed
2 2016 Pulse 49
3 2007 VA Tech 32
4 2012 Sandy Hook 26
4 2017 Sutherland Springs 26
6 1991 Killeen 23
7 1984 San Ysidro 21
8 2018 Stoneman 17
9 1966 UT Austin 16
10 2015 San Bernardino 14
3 occurred in the past 5 mos
Maybe this is what happens when you cut funding for mental health by 40%.
This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 11:14 am
Posted on 2/15/18 at 11:20 am to FooManChoo
I think that has to be part of the base argument. It has to also be honest and acknowledge that these mags do give inherent advantage to the user - good guy or bad guy. The balance of protection for the good guy - from government or criminals - outweighs the negative of potentially higher fatalities in active shooter situations. You have to be honest about the balance IMO.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 11:28 am to civiltiger07
30 round. And they have select fire weapons.
I think that’s part of the prevention of tyranny argument. That argument has massive logical holes though.
Obviously the government is allowed to have and deploy weaponry that citizens cannot own.
The argument for high capacity mags closes the gap though.
I think that’s part of the prevention of tyranny argument. That argument has massive logical holes though.
Obviously the government is allowed to have and deploy weaponry that citizens cannot own.
The argument for high capacity mags closes the gap though.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 11:31 am to austintigerdad
quote:
ICYMI
It only takes one to even that score x 1000 (or more)
Posted on 2/15/18 at 11:31 am to FooManChoo
quote:
"High capacity magazines" allow an every day citizen a chance to fight back against tyranny if the need ever arises.
So does landmines and surface to air missiles.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 11:32 am to goatmilker
quote:I prefer IEDs and VBIEDs.
So does landmines and surface to air missiles.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 11:37 am to DeltaDoc
quote:or bumpstocks, or no background checks for private sales?
Best Arguments & Methods To Defend Ownership or Possession of High Capacity Mags . . .
. . . sale or own mags of a greater capacity than 5 or 10?
Posted on 2/15/18 at 11:39 am to DeltaDoc
quote:
left definition of high capacity mags ranges from 5 to 10 round
This is part of an argument against restriction, taken from the first sentence of the OP.
Who defines “high capacity”? Without knowing I’ll tell you I don’t trust them. Is that number carved in stone? Certainly not, with history as a guide.
Remember when the BAC limit for drunk driving was .10? Whether you agree or not, the number was changed arbitrarily by the government and enforced on the governed.
Once a piece of a right is surrendered, the goal posts can be moved very easily.
This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 11:42 am
Posted on 2/15/18 at 11:44 am to AmericaOverParties
It’s unlawful to manufacture new full auto rifles for sale to private citizens it not unlawful for a private citizen to own a registered full auto rifle.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 12:38 pm to DeltaDoc
Dunblane school massacre - Gunman used 4 pistols, 17 dead.
Vehicles running over scores of people.
God forbid these psychos be forced to learn how easy it is to make a chemical bomb.
The high cap mag thing is just a bullshite feel-good measure.
Vehicles running over scores of people.
God forbid these psychos be forced to learn how easy it is to make a chemical bomb.
The high cap mag thing is just a bullshite feel-good measure.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 12:52 pm to DeltaDoc
quote:
30 round
Why do they want 30 rounders? What is different about the threats that the general public faces that SWAT members face? SWAT members aren't military personnel. They are facing the same gang members and criminals that could attack any US citizen at any time.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 1:06 pm to AmericaOverParties
quote:
The 2nd amendment fighters dont realize we can put limits on what ppl can and can't buy and not rewrite the law. Its been done many times.
The poorly educated like you don't realize that the bar has been set with respect to that argument. The SCOTUS Miller decision already declared weapons suitable to militia purposes as being allowed under the 2nd Amendment. SCOTUS decision in Heller decided that weapons in common use for lawful purposes are also protected. Sorry dummy, the AR-15 and rifles like it aren't going to be banned at the Federal level and the same goes for magazine restrictions which are also patently worthless.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 1:14 pm to austintigerdad
Where is the cute little cartoon showing all the deaths by tyrants against unarmed civilians?
Between Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, and the others its probably about 100 million. The first step to dominating your citizenry is to disarm them.
But dont worry your pretty little head. Ill use my multiple AR15's, AR10's and Ak47s in the defence of this country for your benefit. You can sit back and swallow sperm while the real patriots do the heavy lifting.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 1:18 pm to alphaandomega
We have no tyrants because of the second amendment. Who would be stupid enough to try to take over the US?
Posted on 2/15/18 at 1:25 pm to AmericaOverParties
quote:
The 2nd amendment fighters dont realize we can put limits on what ppl can and can't buy and not rewrite the law. Its been done many times.
Literally everyone defending the 2nd amendment knows it can be limited. Your argument is borderline idiotic, just because it can be limited does not mean it should.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 1:27 pm to DeltaDoc
"cold, dead hands"
Make the other side commit to killing people.
Make the other side commit to killing people.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 1:27 pm to Aristo
quote:
We have no tyrants because of the second amendment. Who would be stupid enough to try to take over the US?
That was exactly my point.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 1:41 pm to civiltiger07
quote:
gunpowder isn't an explosive
Umm...yeah actually it is. One of the oldest in fact.
This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:03 pm to Maytheporkbewithyou
i said yes we should as far as banning smoking. that would not be a ridiculous ban, no one needs an at-15
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