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re: BBC Reporting That Venezuelans In Fear, Humanitarian Crisis Already Forming
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:28 pm to Jbird
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:28 pm to Jbird
quote:
Where is the occupation force stationed?
I have no clue.
Ask Trump.
He is the one who said the U.S. would “run” Venezuela:
Trump answers reporter’s question about U.S. soldiers in Venezuela: “We’re not afraid of boots on the ground” | President Trump claims the United States will “run” Venezuela until a “safe, proper and judicious transition” of power takes place.
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Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:39 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Run doesn't mean occupy.
Boots if we have to.
Boots if we have to.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:46 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
quote:
It is ENTIRELY possible that Trump is trying to pull the proverbial wool over our eyes, in order to bolster support for using VP Delcy Rodriguez as his chosen puppet.
That's looking increasingly likely. It would explain the stand down order to let Maduro be taken. It would also explain why we don't have a plan in place to "run things."
Posted on 1/3/26 at 10:50 pm to toratiger
quote:
BBC= British Bull Crap
Britain Been Cucked
Posted on 1/3/26 at 10:55 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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The Maduro government is still in charge. No doubt most Venezuelans are happy Maduro is gone, but any public celebrations would probably be dangerous.
And they can be happy he’s gone but fearful that a foreign power has declared control over their nation. I suspect that Venezuelans who hate Maduro probably also hate the United States.
This post was edited on 1/3/26 at 10:57 pm
Posted on 1/3/26 at 11:01 pm to LuckyTiger
Trump cut their funding.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 7:38 am to Jbird
quote:
Run doesn't mean occupy.
Boots if we have to.
The capture of Maduro seems to have been a brilliantly executed plan. Elite U.S. units are trained to conduct a wide range of very specialized military operations, such as extracting high value targets in a precision raid such as we saw with Maduro.
Yet while the military has the capacity to conduct such special ops across the globe, it is not trained to alter the internal political structure of a foreign nation. So what comes next does not fall within the scope of these operations, as it is not a military mission.
Unless the Venezuelan military itself supported the ouster of Maduro — and I have seen no indication that this is the case — U.S. troops will need to occupy Venezuela in some capacity to insure stability for the installed leadership. Again, Trump himself has indicated that this is the case as he has stated that the U.S. will “run” Venezuela.
These occupying forces will be navigating a complex local environment rife with criminal gangs, cartels and perhaps competing military/political factions. So we don’t yet know what further military involvement will follow this regime change operation.
And we indeed may not be able to judge the ultimate success of this operation for months, years or even decades. What we do know is the United States has — in the very best analysis — an extremely mixed track record in dealing with the aftermath such past operations.
As we witnessed in Iraq and Afghanistan, such military intervention may lead to years of instability, making it extremely difficult to predict the immediate aftermath of regime change operations. So the long-term consequences can be far from predictable, and the promised stability is anything but guaranteed since the situation could evolve in ways we simply cannot predict.
This post was edited on 1/4/26 at 10:55 am
Posted on 1/4/26 at 8:01 am to Toomer Deplorable
quote:Correct
Yet while the military has the capacity to conduct such special ops across the globe, it is not trained to alter the internal political structure of a foreign nation. So what comes next does not fall within the scope of these operations, as it is not a military mission
quote:Have we got "occupying" forces as yet?
These occupying forces
quote:True
What we do know is the United States has — in the vey best analysis— an extremely mixed track record in dealing with the aftermath such past operations.
quote:No shite
As we witnessed in Iraq and Afghanistan, such military intervention may lead to years of instability, making it extremely difficult to predict the immediate aftermath of regime change operations. So the long-term consequences can be far from predictable, and the promised stability is anything but guaranteed since the situation could evolve in ways we simply cannot predict.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 10:49 am to Jbird
quote:
Have we got "occupying" forces as yet?
Trump certainly has indicated that the U.S. will be occupying Venezuela for an unspecified period of time. We certainly don’t know for how long or what that mission will entail.
quote:
No shite
No sh*+ indeed. It would be easy to assume that our nation’s disastrous history of past regime change operations doesn’t even need mentioning.
Yet based on the comments we have seen from many Trump fanboys on this forum, you could assume this was no more a momentous occasion than a 2:00 a.m. sh*+post by Trump about some dead Hollywood celebrity.
This post was edited on 1/4/26 at 10:51 am
Posted on 1/4/26 at 10:56 am to Toomer Deplorable
quote:No he said it isn't off the table if needed.
will be occupying
quote:Fanboys cultists populists!
Yet based on the comments we have seen from many Trump fanboys on this forum, you could assume this was no more a momentous occasion than a 2:00 a.m. sh*+post by Trump about some dead Hollywood celebrity.
Broken records everyday.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 11:00 am to LuckyTiger
“BBC”
Posted on 1/4/26 at 11:04 am to Jbird
quote:
No he said it isn't off the table if needed.
How do you “run” a country without some personal on the ground?
Do you think Trump is “running” Venezuela as a “Zoom” operation?
quote:
Broken records everyday.
This post was edited on 1/4/26 at 11:06 am
Posted on 1/4/26 at 11:08 am to Toomer Deplorable
No no no! Haven’t you heard?!?
Drumpff put the VP in power. The cocaine plantations will be back on line soon!
So we need to recalibrate our outrage meters from “neocon regime change nationbuilding” to “propping up dictators for oil!!!”
Drumpff put the VP in power. The cocaine plantations will be back on line soon!
So we need to recalibrate our outrage meters from “neocon regime change nationbuilding” to “propping up dictators for oil!!!”
Posted on 1/4/26 at 11:08 am to Toomer Deplorable
quote:Right here.
How do you “run” a country without some personal on the ground?
Do you think Trump is “running” Venezuela as a “Zoom” operation?
quote:
As of now, Venezuela is being managed by Vice President Delcy Rodriguez, who has been designated as the acting president following the capture of President Nicolas Maduro. The country's military, led by Defense Minister Vladimir Padrino López, maintains control over security and government institutions. The political situation remains complex, with various senior officials sharing power, and there is uncertainty about the future of leadership in Venezuela.
Zoom this.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 11:14 am to Toomer Deplorable
quote:
How do you “run” a country without some personal on the ground?
Do you think Trump is “running” Venezuela as a “Zoom” operation?
Venezuela held its own elections and has no issues running itself outside of the Dictator and military coup. The dictator is gone and it wouldn't be very difficult to tell everyone else they either follow orders or will be replaced like Maduro.
This isn't a split country like Iraq or Afghanistan with secs that don't get along, the people are for the most part are united and want to have a democratic process.
I would imagine the plan is to have the VP and everyone else run things temporarily until they can have another election or otherwise smooth things over for a transition to the previously elected party.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 11:15 am to LuckyTiger
quote:The food was being produced in military facilities?
A food shortage is already forming
Posted on 1/4/26 at 11:16 am to LuckyTiger
quote:
BBC Reporting That Venezuelans In Fear, Humanitarian Crisis Already Forming
Nevermind the crisis that has been ongoing for years. While the US is certainly up to it's old tricks again this is still a net gain for the people.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 11:22 am to LuckyTiger
quote:
interviews of a few citizens who said they were distraught and worried.
Literally paid crisis actors.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 11:25 am to Jbird
quote:
As of now, Venezuela is being managed by Vice President Delcy Rodriguez, who has been designated as the acting president following the capture of President Nicolas Maduro. The country's military, led by Defense Minister Vladimir Padrino López, maintains control over security and government institutions. The political situation remains complex, with various senior officials sharing power, and there is uncertainty about the future of leadership in Venezuela.
What? I thought Maduro’s entire administration were controlled by drug cartels and criminal enterprises?
Posted on 1/4/26 at 11:27 am to Toomer Deplorable
quote:And they will play nice or get a flight. Someone has to run the joint temporarily.
What? I thought Maduro’s entire administration were controlled by drug cartels and criminal enterprises?
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