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re: Barna research says 32 million churchgoing Christians are sitting out the election
Posted on 10/11/24 at 12:09 am to Night Vision
Posted on 10/11/24 at 12:09 am to Night Vision
I can assure yall this Catholic and his entire KoC Council are rabid to vote for Trump.
Same way for the women’s auxiliary.
Same way for the women’s auxiliary.
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Posted on 10/11/24 at 12:27 am to FooManChoo
And people wonder why Christianity is dying in America.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 12:38 am to shinerfan
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Pretty meaningless without a demographic breakdown. "Rural churchgoers" or "urban churchgoers"?
Yeah and I would venture to say a disproportionate number of churchgoing non-votes likely live in conservative states where their vote isn’t missed.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 12:57 am to ronricks
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You have to be a low iq simp to think the earth is only 6,000 years old
I believe the earth is approximately 6K years old. That there is a Creator (first cause) who created everything out of nothing including an aged planet and universe.
Moreover, I don't think man is capable of interpreting ancient events so long as their initial conditions are wrong. It defies credulity to invest confidence in models that claim things are "billions" of years old.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 1:27 am to GeauxLSUGeaux
Easy to find.
Black church’s where Democrats hold their slave auctionc
Black church’s where Democrats hold their slave auctionc
Posted on 10/11/24 at 3:56 am to Night Vision
I know several former church, brothers and sisters on Facebook, who are massive anti TrumperS.
I don’t understand their politics they defend the open border. They just can’t understand why anyone would vote for Trump. They support all this healthcare for women stuff that relates to abortion.
they think Trump is a terrible character
…it seems have fed themselves with the mainstream media narrative the last eight years about Trump so they strongly believe everything they’ve been fed. They think he is Hitler , a liar all that stuff.
I don’t understand their politics they defend the open border. They just can’t understand why anyone would vote for Trump. They support all this healthcare for women stuff that relates to abortion.
they think Trump is a terrible character
…it seems have fed themselves with the mainstream media narrative the last eight years about Trump so they strongly believe everything they’ve been fed. They think he is Hitler , a liar all that stuff.
This post was edited on 10/11/24 at 3:58 am
Posted on 10/11/24 at 4:10 am to ApexTiger
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I know several former church, brothers and sisters on Facebook, who are massive anti TrumperS.
I don’t understand their politics they defend the open border. They just can’t understand why anyone would vote for Trump. They support all this healthcare for women stuff that relates to abortion.
All of this boils down to whether someone who calls themselves a Christian puts more emphasis on scripture as the authority for right and wrong, or what man says.
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…it seems have fed themselves with the mainstream media narrative the last eight years about Trump so they strongly believe everything they’ve been fed. They think he is Hitler , a liar all that stuff.
And there it is.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 6:33 am to Champagne
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The Pope has already instructed Catholics to vote in this election for the "lesser of two evils" which is obviously Trump, since Harris is Pro Abortion.
Wrong - the Pope said he does not know which is the lesser of the two evils. See link.
He decried both abortion (Kamala) and people who are against open borders (Trump).
Pope Francis - vote for lesser evil
Posted on 10/11/24 at 6:59 am to Night Vision
This churchgoing Christian will be in line voting for Trump
Posted on 10/11/24 at 7:10 am to Night Vision
The flipside is that of all the demographics, this one actually has the HIGHEST PARTICIPATION by %
Posted on 10/11/24 at 7:20 am to Night Vision
Oh, trust me, non-voters will "vote."
Dems have a system setup to scrape state records to see who hasn't voted, and they'll show up. Now, Esther Matthews may show up as bearded black dude, but she'll vote.
Dems have a system setup to scrape state records to see who hasn't voted, and they'll show up. Now, Esther Matthews may show up as bearded black dude, but she'll vote.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 7:40 am to FooManChoo
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It's amazing to me how someone can think that a refusal to violate one's conscience by voting for a candidate is the same thing as voting specifically for evil policies of the other candidate and equally worthy of evil repercussions. You can disagree with me all you want but this is an absolutely irrational take.
If you refuse to lift a finger to stop it you deserve it
Posted on 10/11/24 at 7:44 am to Stinger_1066
Pope Francis instructed Catholics to Vote. That is my point. Catholics do not have the option to sit out this POTUS election due to some personal interpretation of Scripture or personal revelation that the Holy Spirit told them to not vote for either Trump or Harris.
And when you weigh the evil of Abortion against anything else, Abortion will be the worse evil. Catholics believe Abortion is Murder, which is more evil than not having open borders.
The Pope did not endorse Trump by name. I don't think any Pope has ever endorsed a POTUS candidate by name.
Catholics must vote. Vote for the lesser of two evils - Trump or Harris.
Foo is not the only Protestant who will sit out this election because he believes Trump is a Blasphemer and an Idolator (because he posted a Prayer to St Michael). As the article states, there are millions of others, based on their religious beliefs. Trump has shown respect for Catholics and the Jewish Faith, and this is enough for them to sit home instead of voting.
I still think Harris wins. Dems will cheat and many who might vote GOP will sit home because they dislike Trump.
And when you weigh the evil of Abortion against anything else, Abortion will be the worse evil. Catholics believe Abortion is Murder, which is more evil than not having open borders.
The Pope did not endorse Trump by name. I don't think any Pope has ever endorsed a POTUS candidate by name.
Catholics must vote. Vote for the lesser of two evils - Trump or Harris.
Foo is not the only Protestant who will sit out this election because he believes Trump is a Blasphemer and an Idolator (because he posted a Prayer to St Michael). As the article states, there are millions of others, based on their religious beliefs. Trump has shown respect for Catholics and the Jewish Faith, and this is enough for them to sit home instead of voting.
I still think Harris wins. Dems will cheat and many who might vote GOP will sit home because they dislike Trump.
This post was edited on 10/11/24 at 7:53 am
Posted on 10/11/24 at 8:04 am to LRB1967
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This churchgoing Christian will be in line voting for Trump
This atheist will be in line voting for Trump.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 8:08 am to Champagne
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The Pope did not endorse Trump by name. I don't think any Pope has ever endorsed a POTUS candidate by name.
You did not read the article I linked, did you?
The Pope did not endorse either candidate. He said:
“You must choose the lesser evil. Who is the lesser evil? That lady or that gentleman? I don’t know. Everyone, in conscience, [has to] think and do this.”
There is no way that you can draw any conclusion from his comments as to which he thinks is the greater evil.
I personally don't give a flying frick what the Pope says about anything.
I'm voting for Trump.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 8:15 am to Night Vision
GREAT video on this about exactly why it is critical and scriptural for Christians to vote for Trump in this election.
If you abstain, then you have 100% cast a vote for Kamala and her demonic policies. That’s exactly what you will do.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 8:15 am to Night Vision
Wow, 12 pages of "discussion"! Nice.
I'm not one of those 32 million church goers, BUT, if one can't twist the arm of a candidate Before the election, to get some type of commitment, when is it proper to do so?
The "oh, but Kamala" is just as bad of an argument as "but Trump".
And fyi, saying you're not going to vote for X, is different than not actually voting for X.
I'm not one of those 32 million church goers, BUT, if one can't twist the arm of a candidate Before the election, to get some type of commitment, when is it proper to do so?
The "oh, but Kamala" is just as bad of an argument as "but Trump".
And fyi, saying you're not going to vote for X, is different than not actually voting for X.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 8:19 am to Night Vision
It’s really not relevant in deeply red states. GA, NC, PA, AZ is where this matters
Posted on 10/11/24 at 11:34 am to Stinger_1066
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“You must choose the lesser evil. Who is the lesser evil? That lady or that gentleman? I don’t know. Everyone, in conscience, [has to] think and do this.”
There is no way that you can draw any conclusion from his comments as to which he thinks is the greater evil.
As with most things, Francis has his pet beliefs that aren't necessarily spelled out in the catechism.
Abortion is a sin, open borders and the rejection of it's not a sin. At all. Especially in the politically manufactured version if open borders that is wielded throughout the world.
He isn't supporting Trump because he doesn't want to, because he believes in this weird idea that all immigration is worthy of acceptance. And theres no way that's true. No way.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 11:35 am to FooManChoo
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It's amazing to me how someone can think that a refusal to violate one's conscience by voting for a candidate is the same thing as voting specifically for evil policies of the other candidate and equally worthy of evil repercussions. You can disagree with me all you want but this is an absolutely irrational take.
Because you can take an action that averts the evil end, or ateast helps avert it.
Please point to sinful actions, that are out of normal presidential responsibilities, that Trump implemented during his first term?
This post was edited on 10/11/24 at 11:36 am
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