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re: Barely half of Jackson, MS third graders pass Mississippi's now famous "reading gate"

Posted on 5/20/24 at 1:00 pm to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62774 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 1:00 pm to
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They'll just continue to pass them anyway... Like they already do. Not doing so and expecting them to earn a passing grade would be "racist."


They can't. Mississippi law says you can't pass 3rd grade without reading at a third grade level.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
20411 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 1:02 pm to
Exactly.

They have another opportunity to take it this summer. Many more will take it seriously and pass the makeup, but this is concerning.

Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
23154 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

20-30% reading proficiency on grade level is kind of de rigeur for city schools.


In Baltimore, that's aspirational.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19871 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

She was blowing a powerful state senator too?


No she moved into the Mayor’s house. So more than a simple BJ.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19871 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 1:37 pm to
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I wonder what their cost per student is versus schools in other districts/states.

Once again, the residents there get exactly what they voted for.


If you look at the best schools in the State (Oak Grove, Madison Central, Oxford etc….) and compare them to the cost per student of Jackson Public Schools and the Delta districts it is shocking. I know when my boys were at MC the cost per student was under $10K while the failing Delta schools where over $15K.
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
2075 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

Hard to be a DEI hire without a high school diploma


Wouldn't that be the very definition of a DEI hire?
Posted by whoa
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
5842 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 2:08 pm to
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They can't. Mississippi law says you can't pass 3rd grade without reading at a third grade level.

Louisiana passed this law last year. Students get 3 attempts to pass before being held back.

However, students with certain learning disabilities are exempt for this. I’m interested to know what disabilities because damn near every kid has an IEP these days.
Posted by UFMatt
Proud again to be an American
Member since Oct 2010
12816 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 2:22 pm to
How did the MS Delta schools do? Greenville, Greenwood, Cleveland
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
6292 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 3:59 pm to
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They can't. Mississippi law says you can't pass 3rd grade without reading at a third grade level.



There's probably ways around it. They always figure out how to game the system.
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
6292 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 4:00 pm to
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Jackson is probably better off than Los Angeles.


No fricking way.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
50497 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 4:01 pm to
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27006 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 4:01 pm to
4chubby going to be PISSED...
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39754 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 4:03 pm to
Remember how we were taught slaves weren't allowed to learn how to read or write?

The irony writes itself throughout history.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
70750 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 5:31 pm to
quote:

There's probably ways around it. They always figure out how to game the system.


The only ways around it are to be retained twice and given two years of intensive intervention, to have an IEP or 504 and one year of intensive intervention, or to have a significant cognitive deficiency and take an alternate assessment.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
33824 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 5:43 pm to
Blame lies squarely on the parents and LBJ
Posted by Bamason
Mobile, Alabama
Member since May 2024
9 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 5:50 pm to
Aint no problem with that. Way I see it there aint much use for readin aside from comin on here. I got my hardees order memorized for the last thirty years and I dont needa change it now.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62774 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 6:31 pm to
quote:

However, students with certain learning disabilities are exempt for this.


I'm willing to bet it will be severe disabilities.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62774 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 6:32 pm to
quote:

There's probably ways around it. They always figure out how to game the system.


If it were easy to get around it, Mississippi wouldn't have shown such a devastating improvement in rankings.
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
13430 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 6:55 pm to
If we care about those children at all we need to hold them in the 3rd grade another year and teach them to read.

If we move them along for diversity reasons those kids will suffer for the rest of their life.

I applaud the State of Mississippi for implementing this program and funding it.


Also,

The best way to ensure children are good readers is to read to them and read high quality books above the child’s reading level until the child is at least 13 or 14.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297270 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 7:10 pm to
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Blame lies squarely on the parents and LBJ


Yes, its the collective mindset and belief that the Democrat party is their salvation.

Once they break free of this mindset, things will change for the better in their own individual lives.

Faith in government is a terrible strategy for success in life.
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