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re: Bannon is reporting Wall Street Journal warns another 180 banks are susceptible...

Posted on 3/17/23 at 6:12 pm to
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 3/17/23 at 6:12 pm to
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So you're saying/admitting it was/is a house of cards? Great!


I'm saying I don't think* any bank can survive 10% of deposits walking out the door at once, or very few of them can. Look up "reserve ratio"; it was zero at one point during covid.

*not a bank expert
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
15476 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 6:12 pm to
The DC buffoons will print cash and ruin the banking system for good....

Free money for everyone! What a f'ing joke!

Joe Biden is in over his head, and has been for 50-plus years....who elected this bozo?
This post was edited on 3/17/23 at 6:15 pm
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/17/23 at 6:13 pm to
Whether true or not… this is the type of psychological fear our foreign adversaries absolutely love for us to be portraying to our nation right now. So just remember that.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/17/23 at 6:15 pm to
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I think Dowd was up the ladder a ways....I think he has his own investment company now....he's certainly not Big Scrub brilliant but I think he's got some meager experience in finance and investment.
He's a run of the mill finance bro selling doom and gloom and ruin porn. He has no special knowledge and certainly does not stand out among BlackRock alums.

And I would most definitely not consider him more experienced than myself.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/17/23 at 6:15 pm to
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Did you not read where I said Bannon reported the source was from the Wall Street Journal?
I read your literal OP headline that did not say anything about a "source".
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/17/23 at 6:17 pm to
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The DC buffoons will print cash and ruin the banking system for good....
Talk about fluff with no content. The Fed has been tapering, not expanding. And the response to this SVB fiasco is arguably "stimulative", but it is cashless and does NOT involve money printing.

If you'd like to somehow place a bet on "ruining the banking system for good", I'm game. In any amount you want.

quote:

Joe Biden is in over his head, and has been for 50-plus years....who elected this bozo?
Most likely other people as dumb as you sound.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46356 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 6:17 pm to
Here's a link to War Room GTTR, there you can listen to the replays...Dowd is on at the 44:00 mark but the whole replay is pretty good.

War Room Replays
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46356 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 6:19 pm to
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Got some news for you. 100% of banks are susceptible to what took SVB down. No bank in america can survive a run. None.




Define a run...what percentage of deposits must be withdrawn to be considered a run? 1% 5% 10%?
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19720 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 6:21 pm to
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Isn't that pretty much any bank?


Yeah. A bank with 10% cash reserve and the rest in home mortgages and loans if hit by a sudden rash of panicked withdrawals inspired by social media could run out of available cash.

It swept the nation in the 1930's.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46356 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 6:25 pm to
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I'm saying I don't think* any bank can survive 10% of deposits walking out the door at once, or very few of them can. Look up "reserve ratio"; it was zero at one point during covid.

*not a bank expert




Yeah, I'm not sure what qualifies as a bank run. I would guess more than 2-3% of total deposits would have to be withdrawn to be considered a bank run.
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
12981 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 6:27 pm to
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He's a run of the mill finance bro selling doom and gloom and ruin porn. He has no special knowledge and certainly does not stand out among BlackRock alums.

And I would most definitely not consider him more experienced than myself.


The fact the guy is on Bannon's show is enough to dismiss him
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/17/23 at 6:29 pm to
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enough to dismiss him




irony coming from you parrot
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46356 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 6:30 pm to
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Talk about fluff with no content. The Fed has been tapering, not expanding. And the response to this SVB fiasco is arguably "stimulative", but it is cashless and does NOT involve money printing.


The Fed had $1 trillion of debt on its balance sheet in 2006....Last I heard it now has nearly $8 trillion.....oops, I was wrong, it's up to $8.64 trillion as of March 2023.
This post was edited on 3/17/23 at 6:32 pm
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
12981 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 6:32 pm to
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irony coming from you parrot



How you feelin about the Braves
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
15476 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 6:39 pm to
I see you are hitting the stupid sauce early tonight....

Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45381 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 6:40 pm to
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let's say if more than 5-10% of high net worth depositors made a bank run? I can't imagine if less than 5% of a banks deposits were withdrawn it would collapse, if that's not true the whole banking system is full blown retarded.


Also from The New Yorker, 2008...

quote:

Christopher Flowers, the billionaire founder of the private-equity firm J. C. Flowers & Company and a self-described “lowlife grave dancer” with an eye for failing banks, found himself, Zelig-like, in the midst of the week’s dealmaking. Slender, bespectacled, and rumpled, Flowers was a math whiz who liked chess, and those skills made him a formidable opponent in the intricate moves of financial takeovers—in some cases as an adviser to firms doing deals, in others as an actual investor. Flowers knew Paulson well, having spent twenty years at Goldman Sachs, and had worked with Bank of America officials in the merger with NationsBank.

quote:

The risk to A.I.G. from the huge portfolio had seemed minimal, since the likelihood of default in any given transaction was low. As a result, A.I.G. hadn’t hedged its own exposure to its swap portfolio, and was earning enormous profits on the business. But during the summer of 2008, as increasing numbers of borrowers became unable to pay their mortgages, default rates rose. The U.S. ratings agencies began a wholesale downgrade of mortgage-backed securities, triggering demands that A.I.G. provide ever-larger amounts of collateral to buyers of its swaps. It wasn’t clear how A.I.G. could come up with the cash.

When Flowers and a group from his firm arrived, dozens of investment bankers, private-equity investors, and A.I.G. officials were meeting in various conference rooms. Flowers and his team were given their own conference room, where they and some A.I.G. finance officers examined a spreadsheet, tracking the parent company’s cash flow and liquidity. The cash-flow projections showed A.I.G. to be in dire need of capital. It was facing a $6-billion cash shortfall by the following Wednesday, a figure that would rise to $25 billion the next week, and $39 billion the week after that.

Flowers looked up from the figures. “Bankruptcy,” he said.

“Wait a minute,” one of the A.I.G. finance officers replied. “Let’s don’t be alarmist.”

“All I know is if you don’t pay six billion next week you’re going to have some very unhappy people,” Flowers replied.

quote:

Geithner again broke the group into teams, saying that they would reconvene in several hours. When they did, the bankers reported that they were thinking about establishing a revolving line of credit to support other banks that might find themselves in Lehman’s predicament. But Geithner had asked them to focus on Lehman. “You guys have got to try harder!” he insisted. Throughout the day, when members of the various groups passed in the Fed corridors, they asked one another, “Are you trying harder?” John Thain, of Merrill Lynch, worried, like the others, that a resolution of the Lehman crisis would just shift the crisis to the next most vulnerable bank, which might well be Merrill.

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As chance would have it, while the New York Fed was addressing its severest financial challenge since the Depression, the tenth-floor offices of the president were being cleared of asbestos and renovated. Geithner and his staff were working out of temporary quarters on the thirteenth floor that looked, as one visitor described them, like “a Toledo Ramada Inn.” That morning, they met with the ubiquitous Christopher Flowers and senior officials from Bank of America, who were there to discuss the Lehman takeover. They had stayed up all night scrutinizing Lehman’s books, and the picture had got worse. One Bank of America official told Paulson and Geithner, “We can’t do this without you.” He suggested that the government back about $60 billion of Lehman’s troubled assets. When Flowers was leaving, he turned to Paulson. “By the way,” he said. “Have you been watching A.I.G.?” “Why, what’s wrong at A.I.G.?” Paulson asked. Geithner had mentioned that there were some liquidity issues, but Paulson had heard that the New York State insurance commissioner was stepping in, and that a private-sector solution was taking shape. “Well, you should take a look at this,” Flowers said, and pulled out the spreadsheet he’d got from A.I.G. the day before. They went back into the office, and Paulson examined the numbers. Flowers pointed out the looming multibillion-dollar “shortfall.” “Oh, my God!” Paulson said.
Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7180 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 7:07 pm to
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The DC buffoons will print cash and ruin the banking system for good.... Talk about fluff with no content. The Fed has been tapering, not expanding. And the response to this SVB fiasco is arguably "stimulative", but it is cashless and does NOT involve money printing. If you'd like to somehow place a bet on "ruining the banking system for good", I'm game. In any amount you want.


There is monetary policy and fiscal policy. One is trying to control the flood the other one has created and continues to create.

Too much money in the system.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10151 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 7:21 pm to
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You think what would come next would be better?

Probably not for a while but folks should have been planning for a while now.

I do think some dumb fricking liberals need to learn a hard lesson though.
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
1881 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 7:34 pm to
Bannon was intense at his 4pm warroom. Even used the f word.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33599 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 7:54 pm to
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Bannon was intense at his 4pm warroom. Even used the f word.
oooohhhh
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