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re: Banning vaccine passports - how is this a conservative / small government stance?
Posted on 6/7/21 at 4:04 pm to deathvalleytiger10
Posted on 6/7/21 at 4:04 pm to deathvalleytiger10
He can’t.
The idiot still thinks your constitutional rights can only be violated by government.
The idiot still thinks your constitutional rights can only be violated by government.
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 4:14 pm to LSUFanHouston
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quote: Forgive me, but since when can businesses refuse service based on religion?
Well... Hobby Lobby can use religion to deny certain benefits.
No, Hobby Lobby used religion to avoid providing government mandated benefits and they applied that standard to all people without regard for the person’s religion. Hobby Lobby did not discriminate against or demand anything from an employee or a customer.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 4:19 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Government should issue as few regulations on business as absolutely necessary.
“Tyranny is bad, unless it’s done by mega corps” is not a conservative position.
If the libs pressure all the corps to require vaccine passports, that is functionally the same thing as a government mandate.
Conservatives are confusing small government and limited government.
This post was edited on 6/7/21 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 6/7/21 at 4:51 pm to RebelExpress38
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If the libs pressure all the corps to require vaccine passports, that is functionally the same thing as a government mandate.
All the so-called conservatives who are wringing their hands over this are the ones who want us putting forward candidates like Mittens again and are also in denial that we are in a culture war.
They think the only way to show you’re conservative is to lower taxes. They’re also for more illegal immigration.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 4:54 pm to LSUFanHouston
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If a business wants to require all of their customers to be vaccinated, they should have that right.
Kind of like denying service if you're black or gay?
This post was edited on 6/7/21 at 4:54 pm
Posted on 6/7/21 at 5:07 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Principals are how we defeat the lef
You have it backwards. Standing on principles does absolutely nothing when the people you are fighting don’t respect principles.
Leftist politicians, judges and bureaucrats don’t give a flying frick about your principles. The Muh private business can do what it wants won’t mean shite to them when they want to tell a private business what they can and can’t do.
They’re forcing you to play by a book of rules that they have no intentions of ever playing by. That’s called losing, not winning.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 5:12 pm to LSUFanHouston
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It's not hard.
Government should issue as few regulations on business as absolutely necessary.
If a business wants to require all of their customers to be vaccinated, they should have that right.
Let the market decide. If it's a crappy policy, then their business will fail because of it.
Banning a private company for asking about a vaccine, in order to receive a good or service, is just as asinine as requiring a private company to ask about it, in order to receive a good or service.
For over a year, we've been yelling that businesses should be allowed to make their own decisions. Now... we think they have to be told what to do??
I mean, if you are oblivious to what has been happening, sure, that makes sense.
In the real world, the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT is pushing and threatening in order to require these types of passports so you have state governments doing this to prevent defacto federal government control.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 5:30 pm to LSUFanHouston
Posted on 6/7/21 at 6:36 pm to deathvalleytiger10
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I am a little confused. Can you square this up for me?
First...
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If a business wants to require all of their customers to be vaccinated, they should have that right.
Let the market decide. If it's a crappy policy, then their business will fail because of it.
And then....
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So then we should force a bakery to bake a cake for a tranny, right?
In one instance, you are against government saying a business can't do something and then in another, you are for it.
Well, it helps if you read the entire post.
So, another poster (Landmass) said:
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Individual liberty > private corporation power
And in response I said,
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So then we should force a bakery to bake a cake for a tranny, right?
So since Landmass is saying that individual liberty is greater than private corporation power, I was asking him/her if that applied to forcing a bakery to bake a cake for a tranny.
I am saying, it is the same thing. Either we force businesses to do (or not do) something, or we don't.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 6:37 pm to LSUFanHouston
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I am saying, it is the same thing. Either we force businesses to do (or not do) something, or we don't
Equating royal Caribbean cruise lines with Betty's cake shop?
Posted on 6/7/21 at 6:37 pm to RebelExpress38
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“Tyranny is bad, unless it’s done by mega corps” is not a conservative position.
If the libs pressure all the corps to require vaccine passports, that is functionally the same thing as a government mandate.
Considering how many business owners are "conservatives" I'd imagine many would refuse to require it.
You will have options.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 6:38 pm to Bulldogblitz
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Equating royal Caribbean cruise lines with Betty's cake shop?
An overbearing government is an overbearing government, doesn't matter the size of the business.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 6:39 pm to LSUFanHouston
Who is your favorite Republican President after George W. Bush?
Posted on 6/7/21 at 6:41 pm to LSUFanHouston
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An overbearing government is an overbearing government, doesn't matter the size of the business.
One is a corporation and the other is an old lady baking cakes.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 6:41 pm to the808bass
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All the so-called conservatives who are wringing their hands over this are the ones who want us putting forward candidates like Mittens again
Mitt needs to go back to Bain Capital and get out of politics.
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and are also in denial that we are in a culture war
I don't want my government involved in a culture war. No thank you. I'm not in denial that we are in a culture war - we are and have been for many decades. Government needs to not be involved.
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They think the only way to show you’re conservative is to lower taxes.
No, but a way to show you are conservative is to lower SPENDING. If you do that, then you should lower taxes as well.
Unfortunately, many faux conservatives want to lower taxes, but not spending.
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They’re also for more illegal immigration.
Nah, most of us want to be very tough on illegal immigration.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 6:42 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Either we force businesses to do (or not do) something, or we don't.
Well, reality is a bit more nuanced than that. You are a simpleton of course and nobody really expects you to have the intellectual horsepower to grasp that. Stupid, binary-thinking gotcha threads are so typical of the ignorant like you.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 6:42 pm to Bulldogblitz
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One is a corporation and the other is an old lady baking cakes.
So it's ok for the government to be overbearing against the "evil corporation" but not the old lady?
And when have you seen government be able to be able to act that way? To only overbear on the evil corporation?
Posted on 6/7/21 at 6:43 pm to moneyg
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In the real world, the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT is pushing and threatening in order to require these types of passports so you have state governments doing this to prevent defacto federal government control.
Pushing... maybe.
Threatening? Not at all. Show me where they are threatening.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 6:44 pm to Clames
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Well, reality is a bit more nuanced than that. You are a simpleton of course and nobody really expects you to have the intellectual horsepower to grasp that. Stupid, binary-thinking gotcha threads are so typical of the ignorant like you.
Nah, it really is that simple.
Making it complicated gives you the cover you need to not stand on any principles. But as has already been discovered in this thread, some feel that conservatives must abandon their principles in order to win votes.
That makes you no better than the prog filth you supposedly hate.
Congrats, I guess.
This post was edited on 6/7/21 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 6/7/21 at 6:55 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Nah, most of us want to be very tough on illegal immigration.
You’re telling businesses what they can and can’t do. Very authoritarian.
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