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AZ Food stamp abusers dropped by half in one year thanks to Trump's Big Beautiful Bill

Posted on 7/8/26 at 7:30 am
Posted by stout
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Posted on 7/8/26 at 7:30 am



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But Dems will frame it as Trump is starving people and do so in this article




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Michelle Flowers says it took eight months for her to get her food stamp benefits reinstated after they lapsed last year — and she only got it done, she said, because she was laid off from her job at a call center and finally had time.

The 36-year-old mother of four was exactly the kind of person the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program was meant to help. But Arizona had ramped up the program’s vetting, scrambling to comply with new rules in President Donald Trump’s signature legislation. Even people eligible for government help were swept up in the strict implementation, analysts say, as an agency already operating on thinner staff struggled to process cases.

One year after Trump’s One Big Beautiful Bill tightened eligibility for food aid and pushed states to do more screening, Arizona is a striking example of how those changes — and the bureaucratic fallout — may have hurt Americans who qualified for aid. The number of Arizonans on food stamps has plummeted by half — a loss of nearly 500,000 people, including about 200,000 children, according to the latest available state data.

Federal officials praised Arizona last month for carrying out the president’s sweeping changes to the social safety net, declaring the state was “leading the way” in directing benefits to the right people and reducing “waste, fraud and abuse.” But many tracking SNAP enrollment say Arizona’s steep drop-off is instead a sign that the system is broken.
“They’re making the process too hard,” Flowers said as she waited with a friend, now navigating that system, at a benefits office in Phoenix. Just outside, a man tried the phone number he was given to set up an interview for food stamps and got a recording about “extremely high call volume” before the line went dead.

“It is staggering for a state to lose half of the people who were relying on food assistance to afford groceries,” said Katie Bergh, a food assistance policy analyst at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities.

Arizona is an outlier; new SNAP rules have collided there with other strains, including cuts to staff. Other states have seen less dramatic decreases in enrollment. The USDA reported a roughly 12 percent drop nationwide as of this March, the latest month for which it posted data, compared to one year previously.

Some Arizona officials and community groups have suggested their state is ahead of the curve in implementing federal changes, warning that others could see steeper drops down the line. “We really think Arizona is the canary in the coal mine,” said Natalie Jayroe, the CEO of the Community Food Bank of Southern Arizona.

Democrats are making the SNAP fallout a campaign issue, saying Americans facing inflation should not lose their benefits, too.
“SNAP and a lot of these benefits are not handouts — they’re hand-ups to people that are struggling in this tough economy,” said Jonathan Nez, a Democratic House candidate who hopes to flip a red-leaning district in Arizona.



I would think deportations, both forced and self, have helped AZ lead the nation with having the largest drop. No doubt there were a ton of ilegals on welfare in AZ



Posted by stout
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Posted on 7/8/26 at 7:31 am to
Also, I am sure this is just a coincidence and not reflecting that our food became socialized thanks to food stamps, leading to higher cost





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Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 7/8/26 at 7:31 am to
I wonder if this is what sent Rogerthecucker over the edge l. Not getting his food stamp stimmy
Posted by stout
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Posted on 7/8/26 at 7:34 am to
That would make sense. Poor Rog has been angrier than ever. Was banned for months, then comes back and is even madder. Dude was going in on me one day saying I was lying about my dad dying of cancer, and I didn't even RA, and someone banned him.

I think the admins are tired of his angry old man curse at everyone and derail threads schtick.
This post was edited on 7/8/26 at 7:59 am
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 7/8/26 at 7:37 am to
Don't really give a shite.


They live a life based on handouts. Figure something else out.


Undoing this will be painful for some but it must be done.





Posted by Purple Spoon
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/8/26 at 7:43 am to
Look at The people in that picture(and I’m speculating). That guy smoke two packs of Pall Malls a day and that lady by medical standards is obese.
Posted by Zgeo
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Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 7/8/26 at 7:54 am to
End all welfare and freebies…….lots of problems solved……

Eliminates ilegal immigrants that don’t want to work
Eliminates having babies solely for welfare payments
Eliminates fraud vehicles
Eliminates an easy route to obesity
Eliminates national debt over a several year time span
Eliminates lots of medical issues caused by obesity and inactivity
Shrinks the government

Let the Christian Churches back fill the real need for help to those who really need it…..
Posted by BTROleMisser
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Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 7/8/26 at 7:54 am to
But but… what of anything good has Trump done?!!! REEEEE!!! OMB!!!
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 7/8/26 at 8:00 am to
If we are going to have food stamps, they should expire every 6-12 months and require the recipients to go through a thorough process of reapplying every time.
Posted by W2NOMO
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Posted on 7/8/26 at 8:05 am to
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because she was laid off from her job at a call center and finally had time.

bullshite.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 7/8/26 at 8:08 am to
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bullshite.


Yes. And I bet she was fired because she's a lazy worker hopping from part time job knowing she has the safety net of food stamps.


Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 7/8/26 at 8:08 am to
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a loss of nearly 500,000 people



That's basically a city the size of Miami. California alone probably has millions fraudulently on SNAP, billions of dollars wasted every year.
Posted by SaintsTiger
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Posted on 7/8/26 at 8:11 am to
Things were better when people like this went to community food banks. No graft. No lobsters bought with food stamps.

And people in communities could volunteer. No need for Uncle Sam to destroy community cohesiveness while reaching into the producers’ pockets.
Posted by Hoops
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Posted on 7/8/26 at 8:13 am to
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and she only got it done, she said, because she was laid off from her job at a call center and finally had time.


The father, of all 4, could watch them while she did it right?
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 7/8/26 at 8:15 am to
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Things were better when people like this...



...were also shamed for being on government assistance. Now they see it as a badge of honor and something they are entitled to.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 7/8/26 at 8:15 am to
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Things were better when people like this went to community food banks.


Things were better when people actually felt shame

My favorite billionaire (since Elon is now a trillionaire) laid it out pretty clearly


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We need a bit more shame.

People used to avoid certain self-interested behaviors to avoid shame, private and public. Law and customs assumed this.

Now, 38% of Stanford students claim to be disabled. 40% of young women (under 35) claim mental illness, and SSI disability payments have gone up 400% in a single generation.

It isn't good for anyone, least of all people who are actually disabled, when everyone looks the other way as friends and family and peers con the system with a level of shamelessness no architect of our safety net ever imagined could be possible in America. When everyone is disabled, nobody is.



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Posted by Hoops
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Posted on 7/8/26 at 8:18 am to
He’s absolutely correct. Everyone doesn’t need to be rich but we have a population that believes there’s only IG lifestyle or poor.
Posted by BHTiger
Charleston
Member since Dec 2017
9472 posts
Posted on 7/8/26 at 8:19 am to
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Natalie Jayroe, the CEO of the Community Food Bank of Southern Arizona


The fact that food banks have CEOs tells me USAID has corrupted the entire system.

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“SNAP and a lot of these benefits are not handouts — they’re hand-ups to people that are struggling in this tough economy,” said Jonathan Nez, a Democratic House candidate who hopes to flip a red-leaning district in Arizona.


They are 100% handouts. The system has exploded over the last 30 years. In the 70s and 80s it was embarrassing for people to pull out and use the"coupons". Now people pull out the card like it is earned while buying a bunch of luxuries a normal American cant afford.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 7/8/26 at 8:24 am to
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The 36-year-old mother of four

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her job at a call center


Here's the real lesson she needs to take away from this: STOP. frickING.

I get it, accidents happen (pill doesn't work for some reason, condom breaks, etc) but it only happens 4 times when you just DGAF because you know the guh'mint will help you pick up the slack. No lessons learned, just aid in facilitating bad life choices.

If you can't afford the kids you already have, stop making more. If you continue, others shouldn't have to be on the hook for paying for them and you shouldn't be given a puff-piece framing you as a "victim".

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a loss of nearly 500,000 people, including about 200,000 children

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Some Arizona officials and community groups have suggested their state is ahead of the curve in implementing federal changes, warning that others could see steeper drops down the line. “We really think Arizona is the canary in the coal mine,” said Natalie Jayroe, the CEO of the Community Food Bank of Southern Arizona.

Democrats are making the SNAP fallout a campaign issue, saying Americans facing inflation should not lose their benefits, too.
“SNAP and a lot of these benefits are not handouts — they’re hand-ups to people that are struggling in this tough economy,” said Jonathan Nez, a Democratic House candidate who hopes to flip a red-leaning district in Arizona.


And this is the focus of the story in a nutshell. It unwittingly exposes the real issue, that of a welfare program's "success" being measured in how many are using it, not in how many get off of it. Instead it's sole purpose is to lump those who are using it because of fraud and/or their own continued poor life choices into the same group of those who genuinely need it through no fault of their own (much less faults of their own they continue to make because they are somewhat shielded from the effects by programs such as these).
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
183998 posts
Posted on 7/8/26 at 8:29 am to
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Here's the real lesson she needs to take away from this: STOP. frickING.

I get it, accidents happen (pill doesn't work for some reason, condom breaks, etc) but it only happens 4 times when you just DGAF because you know the guh'mint will help you pick up the slack.



Medicaid pays for IUDs. We should blast it from the rooftops and incentivize people to get one.
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