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Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Islam's Most Eloquent Apostate

Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:00 am
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29594 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:00 am
LINK



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Ayaan Hirsi Ali, born in Somalia in 1969, is Islam’s most eloquent apostate. She has just published a slim book that seeks to add a new four-letter word—dawa—to the West’s vocabulary. It describes the ceaseless, world-wide ideological campaign waged by Islamists as a complement to jihad. It is, she says, the greatest threat facing the West and “could well bring about the end of the European Union as we know it.” America is far from immune, and her book, “The Challenge of Dawa,” is an explicit attempt to persuade the Trump administration to adopt “a comprehensive anti-dawa strategy before it is too late.”


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Her strategy to fight dawa evokes several parallels with the Western historical experience of radical Marxism and the Cold War. Islamism has the help of “useful idiots”—Lenin’s phrase—such as the Southern Poverty Law Center, which has denounced Ms. Hirsi Ali as an “extremist.” She sees that smear as a success for dawa: “They go to people like the SPLC and say, ‘Can we partner with you, because we also want to talk about what you guys talk about, which is civil rights. And Muslims are a minority, just like you.’ So, they play this victim card, and the SPLC swallows it. And it’s not just them, it’s also the ACLU. The Islamists are infiltrating all these institutions that were historic and fought for rights. It’s a liberal blind spot.”


This chick is da bomb, y'all need to check out her stuff.
This post was edited on 4/10/17 at 8:07 am
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:04 am to
Don't have a WSJ subscription but I'd really like to read the whole thing.

If its all right with the admins, can you post the whole thing?
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:05 am to
GET THIS LADY A COAT!
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:06 am to
Nah
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29594 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:08 am to
Chicken supports dawa!
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:11 am to
She will be killed by people of her own religion because 1 she has the nerve to talk and 2 she has the nerve to tell the truth.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62079 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:12 am to
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Don't have a WSJ subscription but I'd really like to read the whole thing.


I think this is a readable link?

LINK
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29594 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:13 am to
The article states she has multiple fatwas on her head. Scary stuff.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77247 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:15 am to
It is the ultimate issue of progressivism and Islam.

They are hitching their trailers to the most conservative, anti-gay, anti-female group on the planet because they see them as a "minority", despite the fact that Islam is one of the largest religions in the world.

Truly one of the dumbest things in history.

On another note, I predict that progressives will go so far left that they actually will move to the right.
This post was edited on 4/10/17 at 8:20 am
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:18 am to
Did they mutilate her vagina? Seriously
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:21 am to
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Did they mutilate her vagina? Seriously


Yes
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29594 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:21 am to
Sentrius, here's a summary:

-Dawa is basically a term describing ceaseless advocacy for Islam
-She thinks we focus too much on terrorism instead of this
-Its goal is ultimately to bring the world under Shariah
-Its practitioners are trying to infiltrate the West's institutions. They're in schools, universities, prisons, military chaplains
-She references Austrian-British philosopher Karl Popper who dubbed the term Paradox of Tolerance
-Dawa practitioners use our reverence for classically liberal concepts (free speech, religion) against us, but if the shoe were on the other foot, they would shite all over that
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62079 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:26 am to
They are cleverly infiltrating liberal groups like Southern Poverty Law and the ACLU under the guise that they too are minorities that need protection, but they are a Trojan Horse.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77247 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:27 am to
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They are cleverly infiltrating liberal groups like Southern Poverty Law and the ACLU under the guise that they too are minorities that need protection, but they are a Trojan Horse.
Yep. They are so far from being a minority it isn't even funny.
Posted by okietiger13
From Sea to Shining Sea
Member since Jan 2007
10271 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:54 am to
Understanding the Threat

This is a group that is trying to train law enforcement and political leaders about how deeply the Muslim Brotherhood have infiltrated the U.S. and why they must be stopped.
Posted by WHS
walker LA.
Member since Feb 2006
3504 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 9:00 am to
quote:

It is the ultimate issue of progressivism and Islam.

They are hitching their trailers to the most conservative, anti-gay, anti-female group on the planet because they see them as a "minority", despite the fact that Islam is one of the largest religions in the world.

Truly one of the dumbest things in history.

On another note, I predict that progressives will go so far left that they actually will move to the right.


Once Muslims starts killing and throwing LGBT's off of roofs and suppressing women in the U.S. they will come to our way of thinking.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476468 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 9:16 am to
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I predict that progressives will go so far left that they actually will move to the right.

you actually can see this in feminism regarding sex

the extremist fembots are pretty fricking puritanical in their sexual beliefs when you get down to it

they've moved on porn, prostitution, etc. they are even proactively fighting sex robots

the problem is their belief system has so much "no" in it, that eventually if it keeps expanding (as progressive beliefs are forced to do), those systems will eventually mirror the dreaded social conservatism, which is also based around "no" all around

from another angle, you typically see "conservatism" defined in terms of conserving culture at the time. one hilarious example of this "over-exposure" was during the Garland discussion. they kept pushing the "mainstream" narrative. what was that, if not attempting to conserve their expected status quo?



if you become too successful with any sort of expected ideals or limits, you will become a hypocrite at some point
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476468 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 9:17 am to
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Once Muslims starts killing and throwing LGBT's off of roofs and suppressing women in the U.S. they will come to our way of thinking.

nope

they'll dismiss these examples away as the result of some sort of Western oppression

they will go back to some ideal "true" form of the belief system and claim any negative act was tainted by some interference by Western culture (especially that of white, hetero, cis-males)
Posted by Iosh
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Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 9:20 am to
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She has just published a slim book that seeks to add a new four-letter word—dawa—to the West’s vocabulary. It describes the ceaseless, world-wide ideological campaign waged by Islamists as a complement to jihad.
Also known as "preaching."
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It is, she says, the greatest threat facing the West and “could well bring about the end of the European Union as we know it.” America is far from immune, and her book, “The Challenge of Dawa,” is an explicit attempt to persuade the Trump administration to adopt “a comprehensive anti-dawa strategy before it is too late.”
So restrict freedom of speech and religion because you used a scary Arabic word? Thanks but no
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 9:21 am to
"Islamist states are hellholes with no freedom, we have to fight them by adopting special rules for disfavored religions!"
This post was edited on 4/10/17 at 9:22 am
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