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Atlantic Article on the 3 Parent Family
Posted on 9/26/20 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 9/26/20 at 9:43 pm
Just when you think it can’t get worse....
The typical path to parenthood didn’t work for David Jay, a founder of the asexual movement. So he designed his own household—and is trying to show others what is possible.
The typical path to parenthood didn’t work for David Jay, a founder of the asexual movement. So he designed his own household—and is trying to show others what is possible.
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Later, as an adult living in collective housing, he could access the feeling of family with those around him, but the permanence was gone. His roommates started finding romantic partners, having children, and dispersing. Jay had always wanted his own family with kids—and had known, for almost as long, that he wouldn’t be able to build one the usual way. Jay is the founder of the Asexual Visibility and Education Network and one of the most prominent people in the asexual movement. (Asexual people, or aces, don’t experience sexual attraction, though many do have sex and form romantic relationships.)
After starting AVEN as a freshman at Wesleyan University in 2001, Jay spent years explaining asexuality to the public, speaking at events and talking to the press. As he grew older, the questions on his mind moved beyond identity and attraction to issues of parenting and family life.
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The problem for Jay was never how babies are made, and fostering and adoption were options. The problem was that he wanted kids and also wanted a co-parent to help him raise kids, but wasn’t interested in romantic partnership. Before exploring single parenthood, he was curious whether there might be another way to form the family he wanted.
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Maybe, Jay thought, he could apply that creativity to the project of building a family—a permanent one—on his terms. Today, Jay is part of a three-parent family in northern California. He lives with a married couple, Avary Kent and Zeke Hausfather, and is not part of their marriage, but is a father to their biological daughter, Octavia, or Tavi, whose full name includes all three of their last names. Jay is Tavi’s parent just as fully and permanently as Kent and Hausfather—and just as legally too, since three-parent adoption has been recognized by the state of California. (Three-parent adoption has also been recognized by state statute in Maine, Washington State, Rhode Island, and Vermont, according to Colleen Quinn, the director of the Adoption and Surrogacy Law Center at Locke & Quinn.) Family, in his own way.
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For Adams, tri-parenting is a way of reclaiming the “diversity and beauty of the queer community.” When it comes to queer rights, the big fight of past decades has been to legalize gay marriage, which has been significant, but has also played into the narrative that the two-parent family is and should be the default structure. “That has taken away some of the power of being able to live radically queer lives without needing to fit into a capitalist, patriarchal structure of a nuclear family,” Adams told me.
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Kaitie just gave birth to a son. She became pregnant with someone who, initially, had been happy to be a romantic partner and a sperm provider but not a co-parent. Kaitie had planned to find two others to co-parent with, but then her partner decided that he wanted to raise the child after all, so the two are looking for a third co-parent to join them (though that’s been on hold because of the pandemic). That co-parent does not have to be romantically or sexually involved with either of them. “The idea of having to match romantically and sexually [while] co-parenting and cohabiting, it’s so much, you know?” Kaitie told me. “I don’t feel like I need to check all those boxes to find the perfect co-parent.”
Posted on 9/26/20 at 9:46 pm to DingLeeBerry
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Atlantic Article on the 3 Parent Family
Isn’t this the same rag that said Trump disparaged the soldiers?
Posted on 9/26/20 at 9:47 pm to DingLeeBerry
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This post was edited on 9/27/20 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 9/26/20 at 9:47 pm to DingLeeBerry
I don't know about this 3 parent shite, but they had a cover piece by David Brooks back in January that I found very interesting.
LINK
It basically presents history that argues our conception of the American nuclear family was a very recent (and fleeting) invention of society.
LINK
It basically presents history that argues our conception of the American nuclear family was a very recent (and fleeting) invention of society.
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If you want to summarize the changes in family structure over the past century, the truest thing to say is this: We’ve made life freer for individuals and more unstable for families. We’ve made life better for adults but worse for children. We’ve moved from big, interconnected, and extended families, which helped protect the most vulnerable people in society from the shocks of life, to smaller, detached nuclear families (a married couple and their children), which give the most privileged people in society room to maximize their talents and expand their options. The shift from bigger and interconnected extended families to smaller and detached nuclear families ultimately led to a familial system that liberates the rich and ravages the working-class and the poor.
Posted on 9/26/20 at 9:48 pm to DingLeeBerry
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The problem was that he wanted kids and also wanted a co-parent to help him raise kids, but wasn’t interested in romantic partnership.
Said no one ever!
Normal people want sex with no kids, not the other way around.
Posted on 9/26/20 at 9:48 pm to Big Scrub TX
Didn’t read but I did downvote immediately.
Posted on 9/26/20 at 9:50 pm to DingLeeBerry
I feel sorry for the kid.
Posted on 9/26/20 at 9:51 pm to DingLeeBerry
Well the kid, and probably one of the parents are gon a kill themselves at some point
Posted on 9/26/20 at 9:52 pm to DingLeeBerry
Guys, there’s no slippery slope. Honestly!!
Posted on 9/26/20 at 9:54 pm to DingLeeBerry
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Maybe, Jay thought, he could apply that creativity to the project of building a family—a permanent one—on his terms.
This sentence here sums up a root cause of the corrosiveness destroying our society now.
People want everything on their terms.
Posted on 9/26/20 at 9:55 pm to Big Scrub TX
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It basically presents history that argues our conception of the American nuclear family was a very recent (and fleeting) invention of society.
Eh. That’s an interesting argument. But it misses a lot of other things.
The normalization of divorce has done more to destroy wealth and hurt the lower classes than anything else.
Posted on 9/26/20 at 10:02 pm to DingLeeBerry
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Asexual people, or aces, don’t experience sexual attraction, though many do have sex and form romantic relationships.
If you're spraying a chick's guts you're pretty fricking sexual.
This post was edited on 9/26/20 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 9/26/20 at 10:10 pm to BayBengal9
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If you're spraying a chick's guts you're pretty fricking sexual.
Likewise if you’re getting your own colon spackeled, which would probably describe the majority of the target audience of this article.
Posted on 9/26/20 at 10:10 pm to DingLeeBerry
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Asexual people, or aces, don’t experience sexual attraction, though many do have sex and form romantic relationships
I’m officially confused.
Posted on 9/26/20 at 10:13 pm to DingLeeBerry
quote:There it is. This is all about the selfish desires of rebels against God rather than what's best for the kids. This guy wanted a kid and didn't care how that happened. It was about his happiness, his purpose, and his satisfaction.
For Adams, tri-parenting is a way of reclaiming the “diversity and beauty of the queer community.”
Sick.
Posted on 9/26/20 at 10:14 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Big Scrub TX
Liberal dribble
What I expect from you
Posted on 9/26/20 at 10:24 pm to Vegas Eddie
Aren’t there a bunch of multiple parent families in Utah ?
Posted on 9/26/20 at 10:30 pm to Big Scrub TX
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conception of the American nuclear family
A) America is a very recent invention in scope of human history
B) Human rights in general are fleeting and have not been part of many cultures' or governments'/rulers' prevailing ethics in most places and in most times, by an overwhelming margin.
C) if the timeframe you're talking about is smaller (as a rule, I no longer read Brooks), then yes, there has been a concerted effort to destroy the American nuclear family--and especially the black nuclear family--for many decades.
Posted on 9/26/20 at 10:34 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:Sounds like Marxism to me.
If you want to summarize the changes in family structure over the past century, the truest thing to say is this: We’ve made life freer for individuals and more unstable for families. We’ve made life better for adults but worse for children. We’ve moved from big, interconnected, and extended families, which helped protect the most vulnerable people in society from the shocks of life, to smaller, detached nuclear families (a married couple and their children), which give the most privileged people in society room to maximize their talents and expand their options. The shift from bigger and interconnected extended families to smaller and detached nuclear families ultimately led to a familial system that liberates the rich and ravages the working-class and the poor.
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