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as you know, I am not one to put value on august polls, but these 2 caught my attention

Posted on 8/11/20 at 2:06 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69312 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 2:06 pm
First, a minnesota poll today

quote:

Political Polls
@PpollingNumbers
·
2h
Minnesota

Presidential
Biden 51% (+2)
Trump 49%

Senate:
Smith (D-inc) 48% (+3)
Lewis (R) 45%

@EmersonPolling


trump lost minn by 2 in 2016, so if it votes like it did last time, we can deduce that the race is going similar to how it did in 2016.

The larger point is that this represents a significant tightening from the last minnesota poll, which had trump down like 12.

What changed over the last few months/weeks that helped the pres?

I tihnk the answer may come from a wisconsin poll also released today.
quote:


MULawPoll
@MULawPoll
· 1h
Aftermath of the death of George Floyd in police custody: 48% of WI voters approve of the mass protests since then – and 48% disapprove. In June, it was 61% approve, 36% disapprove. #mulawpoll


Voters are souring massively on the protests/riots as the violence grows.

Minnesota was ground zero, so maybe pissed off residents are being attracted to trump's message of law and order?


Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
142047 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 2:07 pm to
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as you know, I am not one to put value on august polls
how the frick would we know that
Posted by RebelTheBear
Saban's spare bedroom
Member since Aug 2016
5535 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 2:08 pm to
BREAKING: The general public does not like having their property destroyed.

More news at 11:00.

(not a dig at OP, just hilarious that the polls are now showing what we knew all along)
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 2:09 pm to
The fact that that many support(ed) massive lawless "protests" is sad.

Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
20004 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

how the frick would we know that


You don't keep up with this? If your kid asks you how HHTM feels about polls, you can't hold that conversation?
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28006 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

how the frick would we know that

You mean that you don't read every word he posts? Shocked I tell ya..
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

trump lost minn by 2 in 2016, so if it votes like it did last time, we can deduce that the race is going similar to how it did in 2016.

The real question is what the polling in MN looked like in 2016 before the election vs the results. That's the key metric for comparison here.
Posted by Poohter
SW, Mo.
Member since Sep 2009
1713 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 2:18 pm to
Every time the "mail in voting" narrative has a setback, Trump rises in the polls. The gas-lighting, to hide fraud, is starting to become too difficult to pull off.
Posted by jake wade
North LA
Member since Oct 2007
1678 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 2:20 pm to
Remind me to never go to MN.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95754 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 2:21 pm to
It was a nice place 20+ years ago. Too bad the Somali invasion has helped destroy it.
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
6465 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 2:54 pm to
If Trump loses MN by 2 points again he is very likely to be reelected.

It means he's likely strong in PA, WI, and MI.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34509 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 2:56 pm to
quote:

as you know, I am not one to put value on august polls


You think too highly of yourself

Nobody here gives a shite about you
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

as you know, I am not one to put value on august polls

how the frick would we know that




He's assuming we read his best-selling autobiography (the 9je where he left out the part about him advocating for President Trump to step down after one term).
Posted by LSU Jax
Gator Country Hell
Member since Sep 2006
8874 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 3:21 pm to
HHTM:

Posted by AnyonebutSteelers
Austin, Texas
Member since Aug 2020
711 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 3:32 pm to
For the longest time, I've been wanting to see Minnesota flip red. It's the longest Democratic holdout (hasn't gone red since 1972; even Massachusetts and Hawaii have gone red at least once since then)


The rioting in Minneapolis is doubtlessly a factor. If it intensifies a great deal between now and November, and if the police indeed are defunded there, it just might do the trick.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79203 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 3:35 pm to
quote:

In June, it was 61% approve,


So 10 or so point drop only? 1 out of every 2 people in Wisky think mass protests are "ok"?
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