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re: Article: Usha Vance; Sorry, I don’t buy this MAGA transformation.

Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:31 am to
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:31 am to
Basically he hit a homerun on the book no?

Is it common to get law degree to become venture capitalist
Posted by Tampa Tiger
Fl.
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Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:32 am to
You won't know who Vance is until you see him in action.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167054 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:33 am to
No one comes back from this depth of TDS. She is/was a democrat. JD was so deeply neverTrumper, few change on this...

I know it is time to come together and beat Kamala. But we have wasted 2 weeks.

Can we do a redo VP, please?

Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19210 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:33 am to
A 50 year friend of mine knew Vance as a student as a teacher in Middletown, as an adult there as well. He says he’s a regular person but driven from real life experiences so I’ll go with his opinion more than my gut, media portrayals or keyboard warriors.
Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:33 am to
Throw her a coat. Isn't this the point? To win hearts and minds back from the propaganda?
Posted by Tandemjay
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:34 am to
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She is an attorney. Maybe she saw how the J6ers were treated and imprisoned to unreasonable sentences. The DOJ is weaponized and maybe she knows Trump and JD will fix that.


An attorney that worked for the Clinton Foundation's law firms.
An attorney that has clerked for Chief Justice John Roberts.

Trump has been played or has been told to pick Vance.
This post was edited on 7/28/24 at 9:38 am
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110895 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:35 am to
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How many times does this have to play out for y'all to realize the grift in play?


How much winking and nodding is going on to keep careers afloat in big law and academia, I wonder?
This post was edited on 7/28/24 at 5:02 pm
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:37 am to
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Trump has been played or has been told to pick Vance.


Are you implying that Trump was told to pick Vance as in, he was given an order?
Or bad advice?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476390 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:38 am to
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Basically he hit a homerun on the book no?

After it was promoted in conservative content outlets to promote Trump's Rust Belt policies (Thiel was a major advisor to Trump at this time)

He started up with Thiel around the same time his book was set to release. Look at how much his life changed once they met.

JD Vance flip flopping is to be expected, but the reason it may be a concern for the Trump/MAGA Crowd is that he may be a Thiel mole. Thiel left the first Trump admin and didn't have very nice things to say, and he knows exactly the type of ego-stroking Trump likes to get in his inner circle.
Posted by SingleMalt1973
Member since Feb 2022
24289 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:42 am to
I think a bunch of people have taken the Red Pill over the last 4 years. The left spewed so much horse shite and totally destroyed our economy over that time. It is a stark contrast to what Trump was building pre-Covid, which came at just the right time for Chyna. They were having their worst economy in 30 years. I don’t think those two things are coincidences.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476390 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:42 am to
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How much and nodding is going on to keep careers afloat in big law and academia, I wonder?

I'm assuming "and" was an autocorrect
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128773 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:42 am to
I wonder what Kamala’s cousin thinks about Kamala.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476390 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:44 am to
quote:

Are you implying that Trump was told to pick Vance as in, he was given an order?
Or bad advice?

Bad advice/pick for Trump

I don't mind JD Vance, but I do not believe in his 180 and think there will be conflict down the road.

In itself, as the VP, isn't a big deal, but the larger worry is Trump admin 1.0 is about to be replicated in Trump admin 2.0, and, to wrap this all together, brings up exactly why Peter Thiel left the admin (and criticized Trump): the chaos Trump's bad picks makes neuter any positive effects in policy he may be able to create.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
22859 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:44 am to
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Yes, but Hollywood is making movies for Red States now?


So you call a movie about a bunch of totally unrealistic tornadoes a Red State movie?

Just how "twisted" are you?

Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
42061 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:46 am to
quote:

Are you implying that Trump was told to pick Vance as in, he was given an order?
Or bad advice?


Bad advice maybe but no one dictates to Trump. I get why he picked Vance and there were a limited pool of people he could have reasonably picked.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
17444 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:47 am to
The conservatives would do much better if they learned a lesson from the liberals.

Never, ever, ever speak ill about your candidates once they have been chosen.

Vance is the VP. It’s done. Like him or don’t. It may not change anything in your mind. But pointing out his flaws can change someone’s mind who is “on the fence”.

Quit trying to show people the depth of your perceptions or the accuracy of your thinking skills. It only serves to lower your candidates perceived strength.

In summary: shut up about your criticisms or you will help your opposition gain power.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110895 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:47 am to
I’d venture there’s at least as many there as you could possibly point out as “grifters” under your purported narrative here.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
17444 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:47 am to
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This post was edited on 7/28/24 at 9:49 am
Posted by Ernaye
Member since Oct 2018
345 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 10:13 am to
I agree, Even if the narrative is trump won them over with time, its too complex for a independent voters or someone that only peaks at Politcal headlines. Its too easy for the left to counter and give optics, that he changed his mind when it benefited them politcally. Trump should win Ohio by 10 points. Already a few foot in mouth moments. Im on the its a bad pick train. But Harris may be so bad that Trump can carry him, where it dont matter. But he is not helping much with voters to win this election.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167054 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 10:20 am to
Peter Thiel FBI informant

This came out in court documents. No one seems to know if he got a visit from the FBI and was told he would be ruined with baseless allegations, unless he turned on Trump....

Or if he was always a mole. JD Vance is a mole, it is obvious-even you see it

But another question if we are allowed to discuss w/o baseless pseudo love for JD because he is the Trump VP...

Was Trump's VP list given to him and then they took a shot at him to show their power and control? Was JD the best of the three because....

-it is a billionaire war with the MIC/IC chamber of commerce all deciding?

Is Thiel the better of the billionaire's interests than the hard pull to a Rubio or Burgam from the IC/MIC?

IOW's overall, does Trump have a choice as a bullet glazed his ear?

Money talks and bullshite walks.

They choose VPs lets get real. They tried to take out Reagan FFS.

Tulsi, SHS, Elise would have landed better than JD.
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